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From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm,pa-features bit in PR KVM mode
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:33:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57036A47.8060707@ozlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160405040941.GT16485@voom.fritz.box>

On 04/05/2016 02:09 PM, David Gibson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 12:12:01PM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 09:09:28PM +1000, Anton Blanchard wrote:
>>> We don't support transactional memory in PR KVM, so don't tell
>>> the OS that we do.
>>
>> This assumes PR KVM won't ever support TM, which is hopefully not
>> true.  If PR KVM does get TM support in future, then QEMU will have no
>> clear way to know whether it needs to clear the pa-features bit or
>> not.  I think we need to define some way for the KVM implementation to
>> tell qemu which of these kinds of CPU features it supports.
>
> Yeah, I think we need some sort of capability flag for this.  We also
> need to isolate this KVM capability testing better into the KVM code,
> so we won't break things on TCG.
>
> Speaking of which... I don't imagine we implement TM instructions in
> TCG either, so we should probably make sure TM isn't advertised there
> either.

TM is "supported" in TCG:

56a846157 "target-ppc: Introduce TM Noops"
===
     Add degenerate implementations of the non-privileged Transactional
     Memory instructions tend., tabort*. and tsr.  This implementation
     simply checks the MSR[TM] bit and then sets CR0 to 0b0000.  This
     is a reasonable degenerate implementation since transactions are
     never allowed to begin and hence MSR[TS] is always 0b00.

     Signed-off-by: Tom Musta <tommusta@gmail.com>
     Signed-off-by: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
===


-- 
Alexey

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From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm, pa-features bit in PR KVM mode
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 17:33:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57036A47.8060707@ozlabs.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160405040941.GT16485@voom.fritz.box>

On 04/05/2016 02:09 PM, David Gibson wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2016 at 12:12:01PM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 09:09:28PM +1000, Anton Blanchard wrote:
>>> We don't support transactional memory in PR KVM, so don't tell
>>> the OS that we do.
>>
>> This assumes PR KVM won't ever support TM, which is hopefully not
>> true.  If PR KVM does get TM support in future, then QEMU will have no
>> clear way to know whether it needs to clear the pa-features bit or
>> not.  I think we need to define some way for the KVM implementation to
>> tell qemu which of these kinds of CPU features it supports.
>
> Yeah, I think we need some sort of capability flag for this.  We also
> need to isolate this KVM capability testing better into the KVM code,
> so we won't break things on TCG.
>
> Speaking of which... I don't imagine we implement TM instructions in
> TCG either, so we should probably make sure TM isn't advertised there
> either.

TM is "supported" in TCG:

56a846157 "target-ppc: Introduce TM Noops"
===
     Add degenerate implementations of the non-privileged Transactional
     Memory instructions tend., tabort*. and tsr.  This implementation
     simply checks the MSR[TM] bit and then sets CR0 to 0b0000.  This
     is a reasonable degenerate implementation since transactions are
     never allowed to begin and hence MSR[TS] is always 0b00.

     Signed-off-by: Tom Musta <tommusta@gmail.com>
     Signed-off-by: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
===


-- 
Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-05  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04  6:44 PR KVM and TM issues Anton Blanchard
2016-04-04  7:00 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-04-04 10:43   ` Anton Blanchard
2016-04-04 10:43     ` [Qemu-devel] " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-04 11:09     ` [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm,pa-features bit in PR KVM mode Anton Blanchard
2016-04-04 11:09       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm, pa-features " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-04 11:13       ` Alexander Graf
2016-04-04 11:13         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2016-04-30  0:48         ` [PATCH v2] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm,pa-features " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-30  0:48           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm, pa-features " Anton Blanchard
2016-05-02  9:36           ` haris iqbal
2016-05-27  4:52           ` David Gibson
2016-05-27  4:52             ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-06-07 12:28           ` [PATCH 1/2] Add PowerPC AT_HWCAP2 definitions Anton Blanchard
2016-06-07 12:28             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anton Blanchard
2016-06-07 12:32             ` [PATCH 2/2] spapr: Better handling of ibm,pa-features TM bit Anton Blanchard
2016-06-07 12:32               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] spapr: Better handling of ibm, pa-features " Anton Blanchard
2016-06-08  2:26               ` [PATCH 2/2] spapr: Better handling of ibm,pa-features " David Gibson
2016-06-08  2:26                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] spapr: Better handling of ibm, pa-features " David Gibson
2016-07-05  5:19                 ` [PATCH 0/3] Rework " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  5:19                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  5:19                   ` [PATCH 1/3] spapr: Disable ibm, pa-features HTM bit Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  5:19                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  5:51                     ` David Gibson
2016-07-05  5:51                       ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-07-05  5:19                   ` [PATCH 2/3] Add KVM_CAP_PPC_HTM to linux/kvm.h Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  5:19                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  6:05                     ` David Gibson
2016-07-05  6:05                       ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-07-06  4:41                       ` Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  4:41                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  5:09                         ` David Gibson
2016-07-06  5:09                           ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-07-05  5:19                   ` [PATCH 3/3] spapr: Set ibm, pa-features HTM from KVM_CAP_PPC_HTM Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  5:19                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-05  6:52                     ` David Gibson
2016-07-05  6:52                       ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-07-06  5:35                   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Rework spapr: Better handling of ibm, pa-features TM bit Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  5:35                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  5:35                     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] spapr: Disable ibm, pa-features HTM bit Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  5:35                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-07  4:38                       ` David Gibson
2016-07-07  4:38                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-07-06  5:35                     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] Add KVM_CAP_PPC_HTM to linux/kvm.h Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  5:35                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-07  4:38                       ` David Gibson
2016-07-07  4:38                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-07-06  5:35                     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] spapr: Set ibm, pa-features HTM from KVM_CAP_PPC_HTM Sam Bobroff
2016-07-06  5:35                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Sam Bobroff
2016-07-07  4:39                       ` David Gibson
2016-07-07  4:39                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-06-08  2:19             ` [PATCH 1/2] Add PowerPC AT_HWCAP2 definitions David Gibson
2016-06-08  2:19               ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-04-05  2:12       ` [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm,pa-features bit in PR KVM mode Paul Mackerras
2016-04-05  2:12         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm, pa-features " Paul Mackerras
2016-04-05  4:09         ` [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm,pa-features " David Gibson
2016-04-05  4:09           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] spapr: Don't set the TM ibm, pa-features " David Gibson
2016-04-05  7:33           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy [this message]
2016-04-05  7:33             ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-04-04 11:11     ` [PATCH] powerpc: Clear user CPU feature bits if TM is disabled at runtime Anton Blanchard
2016-04-04 11:11       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-05  0:52       ` David Gibson
2016-04-05  0:52         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2016-04-05  9:35       ` Michael Ellerman
2016-04-05  9:35         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-05  9:56         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-04-05  9:56           ` [Qemu-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-04-05 22:40           ` Michael Ellerman
2016-04-05 22:40             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-15  2:06       ` [PATCH 1/3] powerpc: scan_features() updates incorrect bits Anton Blanchard
2016-04-15  2:06         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-15 14:27         ` [1/3] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-15 14:27           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-18  4:40           ` Michael Ellerman
2016-04-18  4:40             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-18  4:16         ` Michael Ellerman
2016-04-18  4:16           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-18 10:36         ` [PATCH v2 1/3] powerpc: scan_features() updates incorrect bits for REAL_LE Michael Ellerman
2016-04-18 10:36           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-19 10:09           ` [v2, " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-19 10:09             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-15  2:07       ` [PATCH 2/3] powerpc: Update cpu_user_features2 in scan_features() Anton Blanchard
2016-04-15  2:07         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-19 10:09         ` [2/3] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-19 10:09           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-15  2:08       ` [PATCH 3/3] powerpc: Update TM user feature bits " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-15  2:08         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anton Blanchard
2016-04-19 10:09         ` [3/3] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-19 10:09           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Ellerman
2016-04-04 11:09   ` PR KVM and TM issues Michael Neuling
2016-04-05  7:29     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy

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