From: "Franklin S Cooper Jr." <fcooper@ti.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: <nsekhar@ti.com>, <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
<computersforpeace@gmail.com>, <rogerq@ti.com>,
<tony@atomide.com>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Fix high memory dma prefetch transfer
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:08:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570EA72C.7000806@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160321160443.0a4165d1@bbrezillon>
On 03/21/2016 10:04 AM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Franklin,
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:56:42 -0600
> Franklin S Cooper Jr <fcooper@ti.com> wrote:
>
>> Based on DMA documentation and testing using high memory buffer when
>> doing dma transfers can lead to various issues including kernel
>> panics.
>
> I guess it all comes from the vmalloced buffer case, which are not
> guaranteed to be physically contiguous (one of the DMA requirement,
> unless you have an iommu).
>
>>
>> To workaround this simply use cpu copy. The amount of high memory
>> buffers used are very uncommon so no noticeable performance hit should
>> be seen.
>
> Hm, that's not necessarily true. UBI and UBIFS allocate their buffers
> using vmalloc (vmalloced buffers fall in the high_memory region), and
> those are likely to be dis-contiguous if you have NANDs with pages > 4k.
>
> I recently posted patches to ease sg_table creation from any kind of
> virtual address [1][2]. Can you try them and let me know if it fixes
> your problem?
It looks like you won't be going forward with your patchset based on
this thread [1]. I can probably reword the patch description to avoid
implying that it is uncommon to run into high mem buffers. Also DMA with
NAND prefetch suffers from a reduction of performance compared to CPU
polling with prefetch. This is largely due to the significant over head
required to read such a small amount of data at a time. The
optimizations I've worked on all revolved around reducing the cycles
spent before executing the DMA request. Trying to make a high memory
buffer able to be used by the DMA adds significant amount of cycles and
your better off just using the cpu for performance reasons.
[1]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/4/4/346
>
> Thanks,
>
> Boris
>
> [1]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/8/276
> [2]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/8/277
>
>
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From: "Franklin S Cooper Jr." <fcooper-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Boris Brezillon
<boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org,
computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Fix high memory dma prefetch transfer
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:08:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570EA72C.7000806@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160321160443.0a4165d1@bbrezillon>
On 03/21/2016 10:04 AM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Franklin,
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:56:42 -0600
> Franklin S Cooper Jr <fcooper-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Based on DMA documentation and testing using high memory buffer when
>> doing dma transfers can lead to various issues including kernel
>> panics.
>
> I guess it all comes from the vmalloced buffer case, which are not
> guaranteed to be physically contiguous (one of the DMA requirement,
> unless you have an iommu).
>
>>
>> To workaround this simply use cpu copy. The amount of high memory
>> buffers used are very uncommon so no noticeable performance hit should
>> be seen.
>
> Hm, that's not necessarily true. UBI and UBIFS allocate their buffers
> using vmalloc (vmalloced buffers fall in the high_memory region), and
> those are likely to be dis-contiguous if you have NANDs with pages > 4k.
>
> I recently posted patches to ease sg_table creation from any kind of
> virtual address [1][2]. Can you try them and let me know if it fixes
> your problem?
It looks like you won't be going forward with your patchset based on
this thread [1]. I can probably reword the patch description to avoid
implying that it is uncommon to run into high mem buffers. Also DMA with
NAND prefetch suffers from a reduction of performance compared to CPU
polling with prefetch. This is largely due to the significant over head
required to read such a small amount of data at a time. The
optimizations I've worked on all revolved around reducing the cycles
spent before executing the DMA request. Trying to make a high memory
buffer able to be used by the DMA adds significant amount of cycles and
your better off just using the cpu for performance reasons.
[1]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/4/4/346
>
> Thanks,
>
> Boris
>
> [1]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/8/276
> [2]https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/3/8/277
>
>
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-10 23:56 [PATCH v4 0/7] mtd: nand: Fix support for NAND DMA prefetch Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc-nand: Set omap2-nand's parent dev to GPMC dev Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-11 13:52 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:52 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 15:39 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-11 15:39 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-14 9:15 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-14 9:15 ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-13 19:40 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] ARM: dts: am33xx: Fix GPMC dma properties Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:58 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-03-11 13:58 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-04-13 19:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ARM: dts: am437x: " Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 14:03 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-03-11 14:03 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Support parsing dma channel information from DT Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Start dma request before enabling prefetch Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Fix high memory dma prefetch transfer Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-21 15:04 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-21 15:04 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-13 20:08 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr. [this message]
2016-04-13 20:08 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-04-13 20:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-13 20:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-13 21:11 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-04-13 21:11 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] ARM: OMAP2+: Update GPMC and NAND DT binding documentation Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-18 19:13 ` Rob Herring
2016-03-18 19:13 ` Rob Herring
2016-03-11 14:02 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] mtd: nand: Fix support for NAND DMA prefetch Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 14:02 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-14 14:17 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-14 14:17 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
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