From: "Franklin S Cooper Jr." <fcooper@ti.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
<tony@atomide.com>, <nsekhar@ti.com>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
<computersforpeace@gmail.com>, <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
<rogerq@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Fix high memory dma prefetch transfer
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:11:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570EB5EC.3000206@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160413222451.704376b5@bbrezillon>
On 04/13/2016 03:24 PM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Franklin,
>
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:08:12 -0500
> "Franklin S Cooper Jr." <fcooper@ti.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 03/21/2016 10:04 AM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
>>> Hi Franklin,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:56:42 -0600
>>> Franklin S Cooper Jr <fcooper@ti.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on DMA documentation and testing using high memory buffer when
>>>> doing dma transfers can lead to various issues including kernel
>>>> panics.
>>>
>>> I guess it all comes from the vmalloced buffer case, which are not
>>> guaranteed to be physically contiguous (one of the DMA requirement,
>>> unless you have an iommu).
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To workaround this simply use cpu copy. The amount of high memory
>>>> buffers used are very uncommon so no noticeable performance hit should
>>>> be seen.
>>>
>>> Hm, that's not necessarily true. UBI and UBIFS allocate their buffers
>>> using vmalloc (vmalloced buffers fall in the high_memory region), and
>>> those are likely to be dis-contiguous if you have NANDs with pages > 4k.
>>>
>>> I recently posted patches to ease sg_table creation from any kind of
>>> virtual address [1][2]. Can you try them and let me know if it fixes
>>> your problem?
>>
>> It looks like you won't be going forward with your patchset based on
>> this thread [1].
>
> Nope. According to Russell it's unsafe to do that.
>
>> I can probably reword the patch description to avoid
>> implying that it is uncommon to run into high mem buffers. Also DMA with
>> NAND prefetch suffers from a reduction of performance compared to CPU
>> polling with prefetch. This is largely due to the significant over head
>> required to read such a small amount of data at a time. The
>> optimizations I've worked on all revolved around reducing the cycles
>> spent before executing the DMA request. Trying to make a high memory
>> buffer able to be used by the DMA adds significant amount of cycles and
>> your better off just using the cpu for performance reasons.
>
> Okay.
> One comment though, why not using virt_addr_valid() instead of
> addr >= high_memory here?
I had no reason other than simply using the approach used in the driver
already. Virt_addr_valid looks like it will work so I'll make the switch
after testing it.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Boris
>
>
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From: "Franklin S Cooper Jr." <fcooper-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
To: Boris Brezillon
<boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-omap-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
tony-4v6yS6AI5VpBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org,
nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-mtd-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
computersforpeace-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
dwmw2-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org,
rogerq-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Fix high memory dma prefetch transfer
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 16:11:08 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <570EB5EC.3000206@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160413222451.704376b5@bbrezillon>
On 04/13/2016 03:24 PM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Franklin,
>
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 15:08:12 -0500
> "Franklin S Cooper Jr." <fcooper-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 03/21/2016 10:04 AM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
>>> Hi Franklin,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:56:42 -0600
>>> Franklin S Cooper Jr <fcooper-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Based on DMA documentation and testing using high memory buffer when
>>>> doing dma transfers can lead to various issues including kernel
>>>> panics.
>>>
>>> I guess it all comes from the vmalloced buffer case, which are not
>>> guaranteed to be physically contiguous (one of the DMA requirement,
>>> unless you have an iommu).
>>>
>>>>
>>>> To workaround this simply use cpu copy. The amount of high memory
>>>> buffers used are very uncommon so no noticeable performance hit should
>>>> be seen.
>>>
>>> Hm, that's not necessarily true. UBI and UBIFS allocate their buffers
>>> using vmalloc (vmalloced buffers fall in the high_memory region), and
>>> those are likely to be dis-contiguous if you have NANDs with pages > 4k.
>>>
>>> I recently posted patches to ease sg_table creation from any kind of
>>> virtual address [1][2]. Can you try them and let me know if it fixes
>>> your problem?
>>
>> It looks like you won't be going forward with your patchset based on
>> this thread [1].
>
> Nope. According to Russell it's unsafe to do that.
>
>> I can probably reword the patch description to avoid
>> implying that it is uncommon to run into high mem buffers. Also DMA with
>> NAND prefetch suffers from a reduction of performance compared to CPU
>> polling with prefetch. This is largely due to the significant over head
>> required to read such a small amount of data at a time. The
>> optimizations I've worked on all revolved around reducing the cycles
>> spent before executing the DMA request. Trying to make a high memory
>> buffer able to be used by the DMA adds significant amount of cycles and
>> your better off just using the cpu for performance reasons.
>
> Okay.
> One comment though, why not using virt_addr_valid() instead of
> addr >= high_memory here?
I had no reason other than simply using the approach used in the driver
already. Virt_addr_valid looks like it will work so I'll make the switch
after testing it.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Boris
>
>
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-10 23:56 [PATCH v4 0/7] mtd: nand: Fix support for NAND DMA prefetch Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 1/7] ARM: OMAP2+: gpmc-nand: Set omap2-nand's parent dev to GPMC dev Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-11 13:52 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:52 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 15:39 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-11 15:39 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-14 9:15 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-14 9:15 ` Roger Quadros
2016-04-13 19:40 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 2/7] ARM: dts: am33xx: Fix GPMC dma properties Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:58 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-03-11 13:58 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-04-13 19:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ARM: dts: am437x: " Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 13:56 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 14:03 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-03-11 14:03 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 4/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Support parsing dma channel information from DT Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 5/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Start dma request before enabling prefetch Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 6/7] mtd: nand: omap2: Fix high memory dma prefetch transfer Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-21 15:04 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-03-21 15:04 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-13 20:08 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-04-13 20:08 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-04-13 20:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-13 20:24 ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-13 21:11 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr. [this message]
2016-04-13 21:11 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-10 23:56 ` [PATCH v4 7/7] ARM: OMAP2+: Update GPMC and NAND DT binding documentation Franklin S Cooper Jr
2016-03-18 19:13 ` Rob Herring
2016-03-18 19:13 ` Rob Herring
2016-03-11 14:02 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] mtd: nand: Fix support for NAND DMA prefetch Roger Quadros
2016-03-11 14:02 ` Roger Quadros
2016-03-14 14:17 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
2016-03-14 14:17 ` Franklin S Cooper Jr.
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