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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, hughd@google.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, adrian.hunter@intel.com, dedekind1@gmail.com,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com,
	maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com, david@sigma-star.at,
	david@fromorbit.com, alex@nextthing.co, sasha.levin@oracle.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, rvaswani@codeaurora.org,
	tony.luck@intel.com, shailendra.capricorn@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: Don't blindly assign fallback_migrate_page()
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:55:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57642B91.4020206@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160617162803.GK21670@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Am 17.06.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> But doesn't this disable the page migration and so potentially reduce
> the compaction success rate for the large pile of filesystems? Without
> any hint about that?

The WARN_ON_ONCE() is the hint. ;)
But I can understand your point we'd have to communicate that change better.

> $ git grep "\.migratepage[[:space:]]*=" -- fs | wc -l
> 16
> out of
> $ git grep "struct address_space_operations[[:space:]]*[a-zA-Z0-9_]*[[:space:]]*=" -- fs | wc -l
> 87
> 
> That just seems to be too conservative for something that even not might
> be a problem, especially when considering the fallback migration code is
> there for many years with only UBIFS seeing a problem.

UBIFS is also there for many years.
It just shows that the issue is hard to hit but at least for UBIFS it is real.

> Wouldn't it be safer to contact FS developers who might have have
> similar issue and work with them to use a proper migration code?

That was the goal of this patch. Forcing the filesystem developers
to look as the WARN_ON_ONCE() triggered.

I fear just sending a mail to linux-fsdevel@vger is not enough.

Thanks,
//richard

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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com, hughd@google.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, adrian.hunter@intel.com, dedekind1@gmail.com,
	hch@infradead.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com,
	maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com, david@sigma-star.at,
	david@fromorbit.com, alex@nextthing.co, sasha.levin@oracle.com,
	iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com, rvaswani@codeaurora.org,
	tony.luck@intel.com, shailendra.capricorn@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: Don't blindly assign fallback_migrate_page()
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 18:55:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57642B91.4020206@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160617162803.GK21670@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Am 17.06.2016 um 18:28 schrieb Michal Hocko:
> But doesn't this disable the page migration and so potentially reduce
> the compaction success rate for the large pile of filesystems? Without
> any hint about that?

The WARN_ON_ONCE() is the hint. ;)
But I can understand your point we'd have to communicate that change better.

> $ git grep "\.migratepage[[:space:]]*=" -- fs | wc -l
> 16
> out of
> $ git grep "struct address_space_operations[[:space:]]*[a-zA-Z0-9_]*[[:space:]]*=" -- fs | wc -l
> 87
> 
> That just seems to be too conservative for something that even not might
> be a problem, especially when considering the fallback migration code is
> there for many years with only UBIFS seeing a problem.

UBIFS is also there for many years.
It just shows that the issue is hard to hit but at least for UBIFS it is real.

> Wouldn't it be safer to contact FS developers who might have have
> similar issue and work with them to use a proper migration code?

That was the goal of this patch. Forcing the filesystem developers
to look as the WARN_ON_ONCE() triggered.

I fear just sending a mail to linux-fsdevel@vger is not enough.

Thanks,
//richard

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 21:26 Remove page migration fallback (was: UBIFS and page migration) Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: Don't blindly assign fallback_migrate_page() Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 23:11   ` Andrew Morton
2016-06-16 23:11     ` Andrew Morton
2016-06-17  7:41     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-17  7:41       ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-17 16:28       ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-17 16:28         ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-17 16:55         ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2016-06-17 16:55           ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-17 18:27           ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-17 18:27             ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-17 19:36             ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-17 19:36               ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-17 20:03               ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-17 20:03                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-22 22:21     ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-22 22:21       ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: Export migrate_page_move_mapping and migrate_page_copy Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26   ` Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] UBIFS: Implement ->migratepage() Richard Weinberger
2016-06-16 21:26   ` Richard Weinberger

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