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From: Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel <linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	devel@lists.orangefs.org, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Mathieu Malaterre <malat@debian.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	kernel-team@android.com, selinux@vger.kernel.o
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for ₋>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark



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From: Mark Salyzyn <salyzyn@android.com>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for ?>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark



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From: Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel <linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	devel@lists.orangefs.org, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Mathieu Malaterre <malat@debian.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	kernel-team@android.com, selinux@vger.kernel.o
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for â‚‹>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark



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From: Mark Salyzyn via Linux-erofs <linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	devel@lists.orangefs.org, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Mathieu Malaterre <malat@debian.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	kernel-team@android.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Vyacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	Allison Henderson <allison.henderson@oracle.com>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Bob Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Sage Weil <sage@redhat.com>, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Bharath Vedartham <linux.bhar@gmail.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for ₋>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark


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From: Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel <linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	devel@lists.orangefs.org, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Mathieu Malaterre <malat@debian.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	kernel-team@android.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Vyacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	Allison Henderson <allison.henderson@oracle.com>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Bob Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Sage Weil <sage@redhat.com>, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Bharath Vedartham <linux.bhar@gmail.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for ₋>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark



_______________________________________________
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Linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-f2fs-devel

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From: Mark Salyzyn <salyzyn@android.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	devel@lists.orangefs.org, Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Joel Becker <jlbec@evilplan.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Mathieu Malaterre <malat@debian.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Kleikamp <shaggy@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
	kernel-team@android.com, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@kernel.org>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Vyacheslav Dubeyko <slava@dubeyko.com>,
	Allison Henderson <allison.henderson@oracle.com>,
	Ilya Dryomov <idryomov@gmail.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Gao Xiang <gaoxiang25@huawei.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Bob Peterson <rpeterso@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers@google.com>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Joseph Qi <joseph.qi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	devel@driverdev.osuosl.org,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Sage Weil <sage@redhat.com>, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Mark Fasheh <mark@fasheh.com>,
	cluster-devel@redhat.com, Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Bharath Vedartham <linux.bhar@gmail.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Phillip Lougher <phillip@squashfs.org.uk>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for ₋>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark


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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Mark Salyzyn <salyzyn@android.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@android.com,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Gao Xiang <gaoxiang25@huawei.com>, Chao Yu <yuchao0@huawei.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Eric Van Hensbergen <ericvh@gmail.com>,
	Latchesar Ionkov <lucho@ionkov.net>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:40:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5dd09a38-fffb-36f2-505b-be2ddf6bb750@android.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190828142423.GA1955@infradead.org>

On 8/28/19 7:24 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 08:05:15AM -0700, Mark Salyzyn wrote:
>> Replace arguments for get and set xattr methods, and __vfs_getxattr
>> and __vfs_setaxtr functions with a reference to the following now
>> common argument structure:
> Yikes.  That looks like a mess.  Why can't we pass a kernel-only
> flag in the existing flags field for ₋>set and add a flags field
> to ->get?  Passing methods by structure always tends to be a mess.

This was a response to GregKH@ criticism, an earlier patch set just 
added a flag as you stated to get method, until complaints of an 
excessively long argument list and fragility to add or change more 
arguments.

So many ways have been tried to skin this cat ... the risk was taken to 
please some, and we now have hundreds of stakeholders, when the first 
patch set was less than a dozen. A recipe for failure?

-- Mark



  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-28 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-27 15:05 [PATCH v8] Add flags option to get xattr method paired to __vfs_getxattr Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-08-27 15:05 ` Mark Salyzyn
2019-08-27 15:05 ` Mark Salyzyn
2019-08-27 15:05 ` [f2fs-dev] " Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-08-27 15:05 ` Mark Salyzyn via Linux-erofs
2019-08-27 15:05 ` [Cluster-devel] " Mark Salyzyn
2019-08-27 15:49 ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-27 15:49   ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-27 15:49   ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-27 15:49   ` [f2fs-dev] " Jeff Layton
2019-08-27 15:49   ` Jeff Layton
2019-08-27 15:49   ` [Cluster-devel] " Jeff Layton
2019-08-27 17:06 ` [Ocfs2-devel] " David Sterba
2019-08-27 17:07   ` David Sterba
2019-08-27 17:07   ` David Sterba
2019-08-27 17:07   ` [f2fs-dev] " David Sterba
2019-08-27 17:07   ` David Sterba
2019-08-27 17:07   ` [Cluster-devel] " David Sterba
2019-08-27 17:07   ` David Sterba
2019-08-27 21:35 ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-27 21:36   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-27 21:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-27 21:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-27 21:35   ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-27 21:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-27 21:35   ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2019-08-28 14:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:26   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:24   ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:24   ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-28 14:40   ` Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel [this message]
2019-08-28 14:40     ` Mark Salyzyn
2019-08-28 14:40     ` Mark Salyzyn
2019-08-28 14:40     ` [f2fs-dev] " Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-08-28 14:40     ` Mark Salyzyn via Linux-erofs
2019-08-28 14:40     ` Mark Salyzyn via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-08-28 14:40     ` [Cluster-devel] " Mark Salyzyn
2019-08-30  1:24     ` Mike Marshall
2019-08-30  1:24       ` Mike Marshall
2019-08-30  1:24       ` Mike Marshall
2019-08-30  1:24       ` [f2fs-dev] " Mike Marshall
2019-08-30  1:24       ` Mike Marshall
2019-08-30  1:24       ` Mike Marshall
2019-08-30  1:24       ` [Cluster-devel] " Mike Marshall

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