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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [proc.txt] Fix /proc/pid/statm documentation
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:15:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6790000.1091826945@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1091817534.1232.2542.camel@cube>

--On Friday, August 06, 2004 14:38:54 -0400 Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 16:49, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> 
>> > As long as I can fall back to the old /proc files when truly
>> > radical kernel changes happen, exposure of kernel internals
>> > isn't a serious problem.
>> > 
>> > If I had the DWARF2 data alone, /dev/mem might be enough.
>> > (sadly, "top" would require some major work before I'd trust it)
>> 
>> We did that on PTX ... walking tasklists lockless is a bitch.
> 
> It's fast. Lockless tasklist walking looks easy enough.
> Find the process, grab the data, then find the process
> again. If the process went away, discard the data.

Oh, I know it's fast ... and probably the right thing to do. just hard ;-)
Either that or we come up with some intermediate abstraction that's faster
than /proc.
 
> I guess I'd like to have a /dev/ram-only device, for protection
> against touching device memory (including AGP mem) by mistake.
> It's odd that there doesn't seem to be such a device already.
> Without this, I'd need to re-verify much more often.

I'll make you one if you need it, but it shouldn't be a problem,
I'd think as you're just following pointers, which should all be
valid ...

M.

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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	linux-kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [proc.txt] Fix /proc/pid/statm documentation
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:15:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6790000.1091826945@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1091817534.1232.2542.camel@cube>

--On Friday, August 06, 2004 14:38:54 -0400 Albert Cahalan <albert@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 2004-08-06 at 16:49, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> 
>> > As long as I can fall back to the old /proc files when truly
>> > radical kernel changes happen, exposure of kernel internals
>> > isn't a serious problem.
>> > 
>> > If I had the DWARF2 data alone, /dev/mem might be enough.
>> > (sadly, "top" would require some major work before I'd trust it)
>> 
>> We did that on PTX ... walking tasklists lockless is a bitch.
> 
> It's fast. Lockless tasklist walking looks easy enough.
> Find the process, grab the data, then find the process
> again. If the process went away, discard the data.

Oh, I know it's fast ... and probably the right thing to do. just hard ;-)
Either that or we come up with some intermediate abstraction that's faster
than /proc.
 
> I guess I'd like to have a /dev/ram-only device, for protection
> against touching device memory (including AGP mem) by mistake.
> It's odd that there doesn't seem to be such a device already.
> Without this, I'd need to re-verify much more often.

I'll make you one if you need it, but it shouldn't be a problem,
I'd think as you're just following pointers, which should all be
valid ...

M.
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-06 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-06  1:11 [proc.txt] Fix /proc/pid/statm documentation Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06  3:48 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06  9:40 ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 10:46   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 12:01     ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 12:01       ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 12:11       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 12:11         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 13:57         ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 13:57           ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 14:07           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 14:07             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 15:02             ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 15:02               ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 14:02       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 14:02         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 16:48         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 17:08         ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 17:08           ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 15:14           ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 15:14             ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 20:49             ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 20:49               ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 18:38               ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 18:38                 ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 21:15                 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2004-08-06 21:15                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-07 17:37         ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-07 17:37           ` Paul Jackson
2004-08-06 12:58   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 12:58     ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 15:48     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 15:48       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 14:14       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 14:14         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 16:49         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 16:49           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-06 16:34     ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 16:34       ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 14:51       ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 14:51         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-08-06 17:28         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 17:28           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-08-06 18:21         ` Roger Luethi
2004-08-06 18:21           ` Roger Luethi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-08-05 17:10 Roger Luethi

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