From: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@kernel.org>,
Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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Nikita Shubin <nikita.shubin@maquefel.me>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] dt-bindings: phy: Add documentation for Airoha AN7581 USB PHY
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:31:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <67d95979.050a0220.166852.25e6@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a9ac302-dfbe-4d76-a634-a445957c313c@kernel.org>
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 06:01:02PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 11/03/2025 19:51, Christian Marangi wrote:
> >>
> >>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> >>> + enum: [0, 1]
> >>
> >> I don't understand why do you need index property here (which are
> >> usually not allowed).
> >>
> >
> > Eh... As said in the description this is really to differentiate the 2
> > different physical port...
> >
> > Each port have a dedicated oscillator for calibration and these
> > calibration are identified by an offset (all placed one after another in
> > a separate register space).
>
> So different oscillators? Then describe the oscillator and its differences.
>
> Different programing model? Different compatible.
>
> Other difference? Depending what is the difference.
>
> But there is no such thing as "different port ID" based on your
> description above. You just claimed that they are different, but you do
> not put that difference to hardware description. Instead you encode that
> difference in the drivers and it should be opposite. The DTS, so the
> hardware description, should tell you the difference. And I am sorry,
> but in 99% of cases "I am the first phy" and "I am the second" is not
> the actual difference we are interested in.
>
Ok to make it as clear as possible. (hope I don't contraddict with the
previous statement) (actually yes the "separate register space statement
was wrong and sorry for the confusion")
- 2 USB port
- USB 2.0 needs to be calibrated with an oscillator
- Each USB port have his own dedicated oscillator somewhere in the HW
- Each USB port have at the same offset a register to SELECT the
oscillator. This register refer to the same oscillator selection in
the HW.
Example:
reg 0x1fac0100 MASK 27:26 can be set to source out of oscillator 0,1,2
reg 0x1fae0100 MASK 27:26 can be set to source out of oscillator 0,1,2
Both register refer to the same oscillators in hardware (hence each
port should select the correct one)
Selecting oscillator 0 for both USB port is problematic.
With this in mind is it ok if I describe this with something like
airoha,usb2-monitor-clk-sel = <AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL0>;
and some dt-bindings include
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL0 0
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL1 1
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL2 2
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL3 3
Or an enum of string like "osc0", "osc1", "osc2"...?
> >
> > Oscillator 0 for physical port 0
> > Oscillator 1 for physcial port 1
> >
> > And model this is a bit problematic without an additional property, any
> > hint for this?
> >
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
--
Ansuel
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From: Christian Marangi <ansuelsmth@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@kernel.org>,
Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
<angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
Daniel Danzberger <dd@embedd.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Nikita Shubin <nikita.shubin@maquefel.me>,
Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>, Yangyu Chen <cyy@cyyself.name>,
Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>, Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
upstream@airoha.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] dt-bindings: phy: Add documentation for Airoha AN7581 USB PHY
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 12:31:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <67d95979.050a0220.166852.25e6@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a9ac302-dfbe-4d76-a634-a445957c313c@kernel.org>
On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 06:01:02PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 11/03/2025 19:51, Christian Marangi wrote:
> >>
> >>> + $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
> >>> + enum: [0, 1]
> >>
> >> I don't understand why do you need index property here (which are
> >> usually not allowed).
> >>
> >
> > Eh... As said in the description this is really to differentiate the 2
> > different physical port...
> >
> > Each port have a dedicated oscillator for calibration and these
> > calibration are identified by an offset (all placed one after another in
> > a separate register space).
>
> So different oscillators? Then describe the oscillator and its differences.
>
> Different programing model? Different compatible.
>
> Other difference? Depending what is the difference.
>
> But there is no such thing as "different port ID" based on your
> description above. You just claimed that they are different, but you do
> not put that difference to hardware description. Instead you encode that
> difference in the drivers and it should be opposite. The DTS, so the
> hardware description, should tell you the difference. And I am sorry,
> but in 99% of cases "I am the first phy" and "I am the second" is not
> the actual difference we are interested in.
>
Ok to make it as clear as possible. (hope I don't contraddict with the
previous statement) (actually yes the "separate register space statement
was wrong and sorry for the confusion")
- 2 USB port
- USB 2.0 needs to be calibrated with an oscillator
- Each USB port have his own dedicated oscillator somewhere in the HW
- Each USB port have at the same offset a register to SELECT the
oscillator. This register refer to the same oscillator selection in
the HW.
Example:
reg 0x1fac0100 MASK 27:26 can be set to source out of oscillator 0,1,2
reg 0x1fae0100 MASK 27:26 can be set to source out of oscillator 0,1,2
Both register refer to the same oscillators in hardware (hence each
port should select the correct one)
Selecting oscillator 0 for both USB port is problematic.
With this in mind is it ok if I describe this with something like
airoha,usb2-monitor-clk-sel = <AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL0>;
and some dt-bindings include
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL0 0
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL1 1
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL2 2
#define AIROHA_USB2_MONCLK_SEL3 3
Or an enum of string like "osc0", "osc1", "osc2"...?
> >
> > Oscillator 0 for physical port 0
> > Oscillator 1 for physcial port 1
> >
> > And model this is a bit problematic without an additional property, any
> > hint for this?
> >
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
--
Ansuel
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2025-03-09 13:29 [PATCH 00/13] airoha: en7581: clk cleanup + USB support Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 01/13] clk: en7523: convert driver to regmap API Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 02/13] clk: en7523: generalize register clocks function Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 03/13] dt-bindings: soc: airoha: add SCU SSR Serdes port binding Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 7:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 7:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 10:30 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 10:30 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 04/13] dt-bindings: soc: airoha: add Documentation for Airoha AN7581 SCU SSR Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 8:00 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 8:00 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 10:33 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 10:33 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 05/13] dt-bindings: mfd: add Documentation for Airoha EN7581 SCU Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 14:49 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-03-09 14:49 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-03-10 8:01 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 8:01 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 9:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 9:21 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 10:47 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 10:47 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 11:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 11:41 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-11 19:09 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-11 19:09 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-16 17:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-16 17:11 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 06/13] dt-bindings: clock: airoha: make reg optional for Airoha EN7581 Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 8:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 8:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 07/13] clk: en7523: support getting regmap from parent node for EN7581 Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 08/13] soc: airoha: add support for configuring SCU SSR Serdes port Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 09/13] dt-bindings: phy: Add documentation for Airoha AN7581 USB PHY Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 15:50 ` kernel test robot
2025-03-09 15:50 ` kernel test robot
2025-03-10 16:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 16:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-11 18:51 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-11 18:51 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-16 17:01 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-16 17:01 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-18 11:31 ` Christian Marangi [this message]
2025-03-18 11:31 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-19 7:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-19 7:39 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 10/13] phy: airoha: Add support " Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-11 11:40 ` Vinod Koul
2025-03-11 11:40 ` Vinod Koul
2025-03-11 11:42 ` Vinod Koul
2025-03-11 11:42 ` Vinod Koul
2025-03-11 18:09 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-11 18:09 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 11/13] usb: host: add ARCH_AIROHA in XHCI MTK dependency Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 12/13] arm64: dts: airoha: en7581: convert SCU clock node to MFD implementation Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 8:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-10 8:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-03-09 13:29 ` [PATCH 13/13] arm64: dts: airoha: en7581: add USB and SCU SSR nodes Christian Marangi
2025-03-09 13:29 ` Christian Marangi
2025-03-10 14:36 ` [PATCH 00/13] airoha: en7581: clk cleanup + USB support Rob Herring (Arm)
2025-03-10 14:36 ` Rob Herring (Arm)
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