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From: cotulla@yandex.ua
To: linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Hexagon code inside kernel
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 05:07:46 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <721691361322466@web24g.yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHrUA355zSNYgc4uFuSPRakNRq9PptqcgzsAK9+rO7s1ecdOZA@mail.gmail.com>


> šI might be confused, but I believe that this is actually very common;
> šthe difference is that the so-called 'hardware MMU''s are actually
> šjust nanocode burned into a ROM that's on the cpu chip die. šIts
> šinvisible to the user. FWIW some deprecated instructions are also
> šemulated this way: they fault to a handler. You can hide a lot of
> šstuff this way. The powerpc does this, they learned it from the
> šmainframe 370/390 architecture, which abuses this (did you really
> šthink the 'startio' instruction, which behaves like a DMA device
> šdriver, was actually a single cycle hardware instruction?)
>
> šThe hexagon doesn't have a (self-loading) ROM, so the mini-VM has to
> šbe loaded at boot.
>

I mean that Hexagon has a simular thing like MIPS. 
Unlike ARM hardware does not fetch page table entries from RAM, it's using standalone TLB entries.
In ARM they are also present but usually ever low level code doesn't work with them, low level code works with page tables in the RAM.


-Cotulla

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-20  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15 14:28 [DISCUSSION] Hexagon code inside kernel cotulla
     [not found] ` <CAHrUA364XES66kXhr0Gg1dh_MQBAS0+R8Q4x+EY3dgz6s=QRww@mail.gmail.com>
2013-02-15 22:33   ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-16  1:35     ` cotulla
2013-02-16  2:34       ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-16 12:39         ` cotulla
2013-02-16 17:33           ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-16 19:21             ` cotulla
2013-02-19  4:36           ` rkuo
2013-02-19 14:29             ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-20  1:07               ` cotulla [this message]
2013-02-20  1:17             ` cotulla
2013-02-23  4:24           ` Rob Landley
2013-02-24 12:00             ` cotulla
2013-02-24 16:32               ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-24 17:29                 ` cotulla
2013-02-24 21:03                   ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-25 17:26                     ` Rob Landley
2013-02-26 18:54                       ` cotulla
2013-02-27  0:58                         ` Rob Landley
2013-02-27 12:39                           ` cotulla
2013-02-24 12:23             ` cotulla
2013-02-26  6:55               ` Rob Landley
2013-02-26 19:30                 ` cotulla
2013-02-26 19:32                 ` cotulla
2013-02-26 19:59                   ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-26 20:25                     ` cotulla
2013-02-26 20:57                       ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-27  1:06                   ` Rob Landley
2013-02-27  1:30                     ` Linas Vepstas
2013-02-27  3:03                       ` Rob Landley
2013-02-27 12:35                         ` cotulla
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2013-02-24  0:24 Linas Vepstas

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