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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Sanjay Lal <sanjayl@kymasys.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 10/12] hw/mips: malta: Add KVM support
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 02:07:05 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <786372578.29668656.1403244425225.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140619214733.GJ24904@hall.aurel32.net>



----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
> A: "Sanjay Lal" <sanjayl@kymasys.com>
> Cc: "James Hogan" <james.hogan@imgtec.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
> kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> Inviato: Giovedì, 19 giugno 2014 23:47:34
> Oggetto: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/12] hw/mips: malta: Add KVM support
> 
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:34:24PM -0700, Sanjay Lal wrote:
> > 
> > On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:10:35PM +0100, James Hogan wrote:
> > >> In KVM mode the bootrom is loaded and executed from the last 1MB of
> > >> DRAM.
> > > 
> > > What is the reason for that? I am not opposed to that, but if it is
> > > really needed, it means that loading a bootloader into the flash area
> > > (for example YAMON) won't work and that this should be forbidden to the
> > > user.
> > > 
> > 
> > In trap and emulate mode, both the kernel and userland run in user mode on
> > the processor. Virtual addresses >= 0x80000000 are only accessible in
> > kernel mode, and the default flash area (VA: 0xbfc00000/PA: 0x1fc00000)
> > falls in this range.
> > 
> > We therefore decided to relocate the bootloader to the last 1MB of RAM.
> > This area is excluded from the RAM ranges supplied to the kernel, so it
> > should not be accessible to the user.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. It means we should disable the support for
> booting from the flash (using -pflash) in KVM mode, as it would simply
> not work.

My idea was to add a machines-specific option umkernel=on, and require it
in order to run KVM.  Later we can add umkernel=on support for TCG as well,
while umkernel=off with KVM requires virtualization extensions.

The same option can disable pflash boot.

What do you think?

Paolo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	James Hogan <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Sanjay Lal <sanjayl@kymasys.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/12] hw/mips: malta: Add KVM support
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 02:07:05 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <786372578.29668656.1403244425225.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140619214733.GJ24904@hall.aurel32.net>



----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
> A: "Sanjay Lal" <sanjayl@kymasys.com>
> Cc: "James Hogan" <james.hogan@imgtec.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
> kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Gleb Natapov" <gleb@redhat.com>, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> Inviato: Giovedì, 19 giugno 2014 23:47:34
> Oggetto: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 10/12] hw/mips: malta: Add KVM support
> 
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:34:24PM -0700, Sanjay Lal wrote:
> > 
> > On Jun 19, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:10:35PM +0100, James Hogan wrote:
> > >> In KVM mode the bootrom is loaded and executed from the last 1MB of
> > >> DRAM.
> > > 
> > > What is the reason for that? I am not opposed to that, but if it is
> > > really needed, it means that loading a bootloader into the flash area
> > > (for example YAMON) won't work and that this should be forbidden to the
> > > user.
> > > 
> > 
> > In trap and emulate mode, both the kernel and userland run in user mode on
> > the processor. Virtual addresses >= 0x80000000 are only accessible in
> > kernel mode, and the default flash area (VA: 0xbfc00000/PA: 0x1fc00000)
> > falls in this range.
> > 
> > We therefore decided to relocate the bootloader to the last 1MB of RAM.
> > This area is excluded from the RAM ranges supplied to the kernel, so it
> > should not be accessible to the user.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. It means we should disable the support for
> booting from the flash (using -pflash) in KVM mode, as it would simply
> not work.

My idea was to add a machines-specific option umkernel=on, and require it
in order to run KVM.  Later we can add umkernel=on support for TCG as well,
while umkernel=off with KVM requires virtualization extensions.

The same option can disable pflash boot.

What do you think?

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-20  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-17 22:10 [PATCH v5 00/12] KVM Support for MIPS32 Processors James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 01/12] target-mips: Reset CPU timer consistently James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 02/12] hw/mips/cputimer: Don't start periodic timer in KVM mode James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 03/12] hw/mips: Add API to convert KVM guest KSEG0 <-> GPA James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 04/12] target-mips: get_physical_address: Add defines for segment bases James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 05/12] target-mips: get_physical_address: Add KVM awareness James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 06/12] kvm: Allow arch to set sigmask length James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 07/12] target-mips: kvm: Add main KVM support for MIPS James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 08/12] target-mips: Call kvm_mips_reset_vcpu() from mips_cpu_reset() James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 09/12] hw/mips: In KVM mode, inject IRQ2 (I/O) interrupts via ioctls James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 10/12] hw/mips: malta: Add KVM support James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-19 16:27   ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-19 16:27     ` [Qemu-devel] " Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-19 19:34     ` Sanjay Lal
2014-06-19 19:34       ` Sanjay Lal
2014-06-19 21:47       ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-19 21:47         ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-20  6:07         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2014-06-20  6:07           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20  8:46           ` James Hogan
2014-06-20  8:46             ` James Hogan
2014-06-20  9:10           ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-20  9:10             ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-20 10:38             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20 10:38               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20 11:19               ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-20 11:19                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-20 11:28                 ` James Hogan
2014-06-20 11:28                   ` James Hogan
2014-06-20  9:25         ` James Hogan
2014-06-20  9:25           ` James Hogan
2014-06-20 11:11           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20 11:11             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20 11:20           ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-20 11:20             ` [Qemu-devel] " Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 11/12] target-mips: Enable KVM support in build system James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10 ` [PATCH v5 12/12] MAINTAINERS: Add entry for MIPS KVM James Hogan
2014-06-17 22:10   ` [Qemu-devel] " James Hogan
2014-06-18 15:00 ` [PATCH v5 00/12] KVM Support for MIPS32 Processors Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 15:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-19 16:29   ` Aurelien Jarno
2014-06-19 16:29     ` [Qemu-devel] " Aurelien Jarno
2014-07-10 12:17 ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-10 12:17   ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-10 12:47   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-10 12:47     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-14 13:33   ` James Hogan
2014-07-14 13:33     ` James Hogan
2014-07-14 14:35     ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-14 14:35       ` Peter Maydell
2014-07-14 15:50       ` James Hogan
2014-07-14 15:50         ` James Hogan

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