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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	jschopp@austin.ibm.com, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding external fragmentation with a placement policy Version 12
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:56:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831680000.1117821414@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050603174706.GA25663@localhost.localdomain>



--On Friday, June 03, 2005 12:47:06 -0500 Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:28:34PM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> <snip> 
>> Seems to me we're basically pointing a blunderbuss at memory, and 
>> blowing away large portions, and *hoping* something falls out the
>> bottom that's a big enough chunk?
> 
> Isn't this also the case with the slab shrinkers ??
> 
> We kill stuff until some free pages hopefully fall out, but this can
> be difficult when you have 20+ non-related items per page (dcache).
> 
> I think there should be a better way there as well.

Yup. Same problem, I've been looking at that too ...

M.


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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	jschopp@austin.ibm.com, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding external fragmentation with a placement policy Version 12
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:56:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831680000.1117821414@flay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050603174706.GA25663@localhost.localdomain>


--On Friday, June 03, 2005 12:47:06 -0500 Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:28:34PM -0700, Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> <snip> 
>> Seems to me we're basically pointing a blunderbuss at memory, and 
>> blowing away large portions, and *hoping* something falls out the
>> bottom that's a big enough chunk?
> 
> Isn't this also the case with the slab shrinkers ??
> 
> We kill stuff until some free pages hopefully fall out, but this can
> be difficult when you have 20+ non-related items per page (dcache).
> 
> I think there should be a better way there as well.

Yup. Same problem, I've been looking at that too ...

M.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-03 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-31 11:20 Avoiding external fragmentation with a placement policy Version 12 Mel Gorman
2005-05-31 11:20 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-01 20:55 ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-01 20:55   ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-01 23:09   ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:09     ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:23     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-01 23:23       ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:28     ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-01 23:28       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-01 23:43       ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:43         ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02  0:02         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02  0:02           ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02  0:20           ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02  0:20             ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02 13:55             ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02 13:55               ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02 15:52             ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-02 15:52               ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-02 19:50               ` Ray Bryant
2005-06-02 19:50                 ` Ray Bryant
2005-06-02 20:10                 ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-02 20:10                   ` Joel Schopp
2005-06-04 16:09                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-06-04 16:09                     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-06-03  3:48               ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-03  3:48                 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-03  4:49                 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03  4:49                   ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-03  5:34                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03  5:34                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03  5:37                     ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03  5:37                       ` David S. Miller, Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03  5:42                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03  5:42                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03  5:51                         ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03  5:51                           ` David S. Miller, Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 13:13                         ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-03 13:13                           ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-03  6:43                     ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-03  6:43                       ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-03 13:57                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 13:57                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 16:43                         ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-03 16:43                           ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-03 18:43                           ` David S. Miller
2005-06-03 18:43                             ` David S. Miller, Dave Hansen
2005-06-04  1:44                       ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-04  1:44                         ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-04  2:15                         ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-04  2:15                           ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-05 19:52                           ` David S. Miller
2005-06-05 19:52                             ` David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-03 13:05                 ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-03 13:05                   ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-03 14:00                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-03 14:00                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-08 17:03                     ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-08 17:03                       ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-08 17:18                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-08 17:18                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-10 16:20                         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-10 16:20                           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-10 17:53                           ` Steve Lord
2005-06-10 17:53                             ` Steve Lord
2005-06-02 18:28           ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-02 18:28             ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-02 18:42             ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02 18:42               ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02 13:15       ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02 13:15         ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02 14:01         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-02 14:01           ` Martin J. Bligh
     [not found]       ` <20050603174706.GA25663@localhost.localdomain>
2005-06-03 17:56         ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2005-06-03 17:56           ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-01 23:47     ` Mike Kravetz
2005-06-01 23:47       ` Mike Kravetz
2005-06-01 23:56       ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-01 23:56         ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-02  0:07         ` Mike Kravetz
2005-06-02  0:07           ` Mike Kravetz
2005-06-02  9:49   ` Mel Gorman
2005-06-02  9:49     ` Mel Gorman

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