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From: Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Pedro Barbuda <pbarbuda@microsoft.com>,
	Mohamed Mediouni <mohamed@unpredictable.fr>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Harsh Prateek Bora <harshpb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: what is qemu_system_guest_panicked() for?
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2026 13:11:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8733xm6faj.fsf@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9Bkq+L-YmNP2bSqxw-09ZgD=mCUQdGQ=-wF5ySzCJhOA@mail.gmail.com>

Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2026 at 15:49, Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>> Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> writes:
>> >  - ppc TCG, in powerpc_checkstop(), for a machine check exception I think
>>
>> 1) The Checkstop state is the state the (modern) architecture prescribes
>> the machine transitions to when: a) machine check happens but machine
>> check exceptions are disabled or b) hard-to-recover storage errors. On
>> older user manuals I also see occurrences of checkstop when (a) above
>> happens and a "debug bit" is also set.
>>
>>   603 UM:
>>   "[cpu] must terminate operation by internally gating off all clocks, and
>>   release all outputs to the high impedance state"
>>
>>   750cx UM:
>>   "When a processor is in checkstop state, instruction processing is
>>   suspended and generally cannot resume without the processor being
>>   reset."
>
> Thanks. So since this is in TCG, is this for the case "we emulated
> the CPU ending up in a checkstop situation", rather than "the real
> host hardware is broken" ? Can the guest deliberately provoke real
> hardware into this state, or is it only something you can get into
> when the h/w is broken ?
>

The former, checkstop emulation. The guest cannot cause real hardware to
be in this state, this is the cosmic rays kind of problem.


      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-13 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-10 16:02 what is qemu_system_guest_panicked() for? Peter Maydell
2026-07-11 15:01 ` Harsh Prateek Bora
2026-07-13  8:39 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-13  8:57   ` Markus Armbruster
2026-07-13  9:06     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-13 10:30       ` Cornelia Huck
2026-07-13 11:43       ` Markus Armbruster
2026-07-13 12:14         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-13 13:57           ` Markus Armbruster
2026-07-13 15:02             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2026-07-13 18:09               ` Markus Armbruster
2026-07-13 12:30   ` Peter Maydell
2026-07-13 10:22 ` Cornelia Huck
2026-07-13 13:53   ` Christian Borntraeger
2026-07-13 13:36 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-07-14 10:24   ` Aditya Gupta
2026-07-14 14:47     ` Shivang Upadhyay
2026-07-13 14:49 ` Fabiano Rosas
2026-07-13 15:03   ` Peter Maydell
2026-07-13 16:11     ` Fabiano Rosas [this message]

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