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From: Li Chen<me@linux.beauty>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Lubomir Rintel" <lkundrak@v3.sk>,
	"Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Robert Jarzmik" <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	"Sven Peter" <sven@svenpeter.dev>,
	"Yinbo Zhu" <zhuyinbo@loongson.cn>,
	"Brian Norris" <briannorris@chromium.org>,
	"Hitomi Hasegawa" <hasegawa-hitomi@fujitsu.com>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Ambarella SoC support"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/15] soc: add Ambarella driver
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 15:21:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cx59568.wl-me@linux.beauty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e404cef-52fb-49a2-a91b-8e3c60407ddd@app.fastmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

Sorry for late reply.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:46:06 +0800,
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, at 08:58, Li Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:29:06 +0800,
> > Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 08:32, Li Chen wrote:
> >> > +static struct ambarella_soc_id {
> >> > +	unsigned int id;
> >> > +	const char *name;
> >> > +	const char *family;
> >> > +} soc_ids[] = {
> >> > +	{ 0x00483245, "s6lm",  "10nm", },
> >> > +};
> >>
> >> I would suggest something more descriptive in the "family"
> >> field to let users know they are on an Ambarella SoC.
> >>
> >> Maybe just "Ambarella 10nm".
> >
> > There is a "pr_info("Ambarella SoC %s detected\n",
> > soc_dev_attr->soc_id);" in this file,
> > I think this should be enough, right?
>
> The pr_info() can probably be removed here, or reworded
> based on the changed contents, those are just meant for
> humans reading through the log rather than parsed by
> software.
>
> The soc_id fields on the other hand need to be parsable
> by scripts looking at the sysfs files, in a way that lets
> them identify the system. Usually the script would look
> at the "family" as the primary key before looking up the
> "name", so you have to make sure that the family uniquely
> identifies this as one of yours rather than a 10nm chip
> from some other company.

Ok, I will add "Ambarella" prefix to ->family.

> >> If there are other unrelated registers in there, the compatible
> >> string should probably be changed to better describe the
> >> entire area based on the name in the datasheet.
> >
> > Yeah, this block is only used for identification bits. In datasheet,
> > it is also named "CPU ID".
>
> ok.
>
> > Other than cpuid_regmap, this driver also looks for "model" name as soc
> > machine name:
> > of_property_read_string(np, "model", &soc_dev_attr->machine);
> >
> > So I think it is not a good idea to conver it to into a platform driver.
> I don't understand what you mean. A lot of soc_id drivers put
> the model string into soc_dev_attr->machine, this makes no
> difference here.

Ok, I will switch to builtin platform driver. Which compatible do you prefer?

compatible = "ambarella,cpuid"
or
compatible = "ambarella,<SoC>-cpuid"

> > As for "syscon", I think it is still very helpful to get regmap easily.
> > Generally speaking,
> > I prefer regmap over void*, because it has debugfs support, so I can
> > get its value more easily.
>
> What value would you get through debugfs that is not already in
> the soc_device?

Agree with you.

> >> > +static unsigned int ambsys_config;
> >> > +
> >> > +unsigned int ambarella_sys_config(void)
> >> > +{
> >> > +	return ambsys_config;
> >> > +}
> >> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(ambarella_sys_config);
> >>
> >> Which drivers use this bit? Can they be changed to
> >> use soc_device_match() instead to avoid the export?
> >
> > sys_config is used by our nand and sd drivers. I also don't want to export,
> > but struct soc_device_attribute/soc_device don't have private data to store it,
> > I think there is no better way.
>
> The nand and sd drivers should not rely on any private data
> from another driver.

Agree.

> What information do they actually
> need here that is not already in their own DT nodes or
> in the soc_device_attributes?

sys_config from rct_regmap is not available for sd/nand node neither soc_device_attribute.

But given that I will switch dts model to(see https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg1043684.html):

rct
| nand
| sd
| ...

Then I can easily and naturally get sys_config via syscon_node_to_regmap(of_get_parent(nand_np/sd_np)).

So this is not a problem anymore and I will switch to builtin platform driver in v2.

> >> > +static int __init ambarella_soc_init(void)
> >> > +{
> >> > +	struct regmap *rct_regmap;
> >> > +	int ret;
> >> > +
> >> > +	rct_regmap = syscon_regmap_lookup_by_compatible("ambarella,rct");
> >> > +	if (IS_ERR(rct_regmap)) {
> >> > +		pr_err("failed to get ambarella rct regmap\n");
> >> > +		return PTR_ERR(rct_regmap);
> >> > +	}
> >> ...
> >> > +arch_initcall(ambarella_soc_init);
> >>
> >> It is not an error to use a chip from another manufacturer,
> >> please drop the pr_err() and return success here.
> >
> > Ok, good to know, thanks. But we don't have other manufacturers at
> > least for now,
>
> I care a lot about supporting multiple SoC vendors, it would seem
> very rude to assume that we stop supporting everything else after
> merging Ambarella support.
>
> > and rct_regmap is need to be updated here, like sys_config and soft
> > reboot. So I think this rct regmap is still needed.
>
> It is certainly only needed on Ambarella SoCs, no other one
> has this device at the moment.

I'm really sorry that I forgot that this builtin arch_initcall code would run on SoCs
other than Ambarella.

I will remove the err output in v2.

Regards,
Li

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Li Chen <me@linux.beauty>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Lubomir Rintel" <lkundrak@v3.sk>,
	"Conor.Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Robert Jarzmik" <robert.jarzmik@free.fr>,
	"Sven Peter" <sven@svenpeter.dev>,
	"Yinbo Zhu" <zhuyinbo@loongson.cn>,
	"Brian Norris" <briannorris@chromium.org>,
	"Hitomi Hasegawa" <hasegawa-hitomi@fujitsu.com>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Ambarella SoC support"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/15] soc: add Ambarella driver
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2023 15:21:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cx59568.wl-me@linux.beauty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e404cef-52fb-49a2-a91b-8e3c60407ddd@app.fastmail.com>

Hi Arnd,

Sorry for late reply.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 23:46:06 +0800,
Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, at 08:58, Li Chen wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:29:06 +0800,
> > Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023, at 08:32, Li Chen wrote:
> >> > +static struct ambarella_soc_id {
> >> > +	unsigned int id;
> >> > +	const char *name;
> >> > +	const char *family;
> >> > +} soc_ids[] = {
> >> > +	{ 0x00483245, "s6lm",  "10nm", },
> >> > +};
> >>
> >> I would suggest something more descriptive in the "family"
> >> field to let users know they are on an Ambarella SoC.
> >>
> >> Maybe just "Ambarella 10nm".
> >
> > There is a "pr_info("Ambarella SoC %s detected\n",
> > soc_dev_attr->soc_id);" in this file,
> > I think this should be enough, right?
>
> The pr_info() can probably be removed here, or reworded
> based on the changed contents, those are just meant for
> humans reading through the log rather than parsed by
> software.
>
> The soc_id fields on the other hand need to be parsable
> by scripts looking at the sysfs files, in a way that lets
> them identify the system. Usually the script would look
> at the "family" as the primary key before looking up the
> "name", so you have to make sure that the family uniquely
> identifies this as one of yours rather than a 10nm chip
> from some other company.

Ok, I will add "Ambarella" prefix to ->family.

> >> If there are other unrelated registers in there, the compatible
> >> string should probably be changed to better describe the
> >> entire area based on the name in the datasheet.
> >
> > Yeah, this block is only used for identification bits. In datasheet,
> > it is also named "CPU ID".
>
> ok.
>
> > Other than cpuid_regmap, this driver also looks for "model" name as soc
> > machine name:
> > of_property_read_string(np, "model", &soc_dev_attr->machine);
> >
> > So I think it is not a good idea to conver it to into a platform driver.
> I don't understand what you mean. A lot of soc_id drivers put
> the model string into soc_dev_attr->machine, this makes no
> difference here.

Ok, I will switch to builtin platform driver. Which compatible do you prefer?

compatible = "ambarella,cpuid"
or
compatible = "ambarella,<SoC>-cpuid"

> > As for "syscon", I think it is still very helpful to get regmap easily.
> > Generally speaking,
> > I prefer regmap over void*, because it has debugfs support, so I can
> > get its value more easily.
>
> What value would you get through debugfs that is not already in
> the soc_device?

Agree with you.

> >> > +static unsigned int ambsys_config;
> >> > +
> >> > +unsigned int ambarella_sys_config(void)
> >> > +{
> >> > +	return ambsys_config;
> >> > +}
> >> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL(ambarella_sys_config);
> >>
> >> Which drivers use this bit? Can they be changed to
> >> use soc_device_match() instead to avoid the export?
> >
> > sys_config is used by our nand and sd drivers. I also don't want to export,
> > but struct soc_device_attribute/soc_device don't have private data to store it,
> > I think there is no better way.
>
> The nand and sd drivers should not rely on any private data
> from another driver.

Agree.

> What information do they actually
> need here that is not already in their own DT nodes or
> in the soc_device_attributes?

sys_config from rct_regmap is not available for sd/nand node neither soc_device_attribute.

But given that I will switch dts model to(see https://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg1043684.html):

rct
| nand
| sd
| ...

Then I can easily and naturally get sys_config via syscon_node_to_regmap(of_get_parent(nand_np/sd_np)).

So this is not a problem anymore and I will switch to builtin platform driver in v2.

> >> > +static int __init ambarella_soc_init(void)
> >> > +{
> >> > +	struct regmap *rct_regmap;
> >> > +	int ret;
> >> > +
> >> > +	rct_regmap = syscon_regmap_lookup_by_compatible("ambarella,rct");
> >> > +	if (IS_ERR(rct_regmap)) {
> >> > +		pr_err("failed to get ambarella rct regmap\n");
> >> > +		return PTR_ERR(rct_regmap);
> >> > +	}
> >> ...
> >> > +arch_initcall(ambarella_soc_init);
> >>
> >> It is not an error to use a chip from another manufacturer,
> >> please drop the pr_err() and return success here.
> >
> > Ok, good to know, thanks. But we don't have other manufacturers at
> > least for now,
>
> I care a lot about supporting multiple SoC vendors, it would seem
> very rude to assume that we stop supporting everything else after
> merging Ambarella support.
>
> > and rct_regmap is need to be updated here, like sys_config and soft
> > reboot. So I think this rct regmap is still needed.
>
> It is certainly only needed on Ambarella SoCs, no other one
> has this device at the moment.

I'm really sorry that I forgot that this builtin arch_initcall code would run on SoCs
other than Ambarella.

I will remove the err output in v2.

Regards,
Li

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-29  7:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-23  7:32 [PATCH 00/15] Ambarella S6LM SoC bring-up Li Chen
2023-01-23  7:32 ` Li Chen
2023-01-23  7:32 ` Li Chen
2023-01-23  7:32 ` [PATCH 02/15] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: add Ambarella prefix Li Chen
2023-01-23  8:02   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  7:32 ` [PATCH 05/15] arm64: Kconfig: Introduce CONFIG_ARCH_AMBARELLA Li Chen
2023-01-23  7:32   ` Li Chen
2023-01-23  8:32   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23  8:32     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23  7:32 ` [PATCH 10/15] serial: ambarella: add support for Ambarella uart_port Li Chen
2023-01-23  9:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-23  9:50     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-23  9:50     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-23  9:51   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-23  9:51     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-23  9:51     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-25 10:01     ` Li Chen
2023-01-25 10:01       ` Li Chen
2023-01-25 10:01       ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-4-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:03   ` [PATCH 03/15] dt-bindings: arm: ambarella: Add binding for Ambarella ARM platforms Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:03     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23 13:58     ` Li Chen
2023-01-23 13:58       ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-5-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:07   ` [PATCH 04/15] dt-bindings: arm: add support for Ambarella SoC Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:07     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23 15:09     ` Li Chen
2023-01-23 15:09       ` Li Chen
2023-01-23 15:52       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23 15:52         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-8-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:11   ` [PATCH 07/15] dt-bindings: clock: Add Ambarella clock bindings Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:11     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25  9:28     ` Li Chen
2023-01-25  9:28       ` Li Chen
2023-01-25  9:55       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25  9:55         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25 12:06         ` Li Chen
2023-01-25 12:06           ` Li Chen
2023-01-25 12:14           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25 12:14             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25 13:40             ` Li Chen
2023-01-25 13:40               ` Li Chen
2023-01-26 11:29               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-26 11:29                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-27 14:48                 ` Li Chen
2023-01-27 14:48                   ` Li Chen
2023-01-27 15:08                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-27 15:08                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-28  9:42                     ` Li Chen
2023-01-28  9:42                       ` Li Chen
2023-01-28 10:08                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-28 10:08                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-28 10:11                         ` Li Chen
2023-01-28 10:11                           ` Li Chen
2023-02-06 11:28                     ` Li Chen
2023-02-06 11:28                       ` Li Chen
2023-02-06 13:41                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-06 13:41                         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-06 14:57                         ` Li Chen
2023-02-06 14:57                           ` Li Chen
2023-02-08 10:27                           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-02-08 10:27                             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-27 15:11                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-27 15:11                     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-28  9:45                     ` Li Chen
2023-01-28  9:45                       ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-10-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:11   ` [PATCH 09/15] dt-bindings: serial: add support for Ambarella Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:11     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25  9:54     ` Li Chen
2023-01-25  9:54       ` Li Chen
2023-01-25  9:56       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-25  9:56         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-28  9:22         ` Li Chen
2023-01-28  9:22           ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-12-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:13   ` [PATCH 11/15] dt-bindings: mtd: Add binding " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-14-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:13   ` [PATCH 13/15] dt-bindings: pinctrl: add support " Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:13     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23 12:32   ` Linus Walleij
2023-01-23 12:32     ` Linus Walleij
2023-01-28 10:05     ` Li Chen
2023-01-28 10:05       ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-16-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:20   ` [PATCH 15/15] arm64: dts: ambarella: introduce Ambarella s6lm SoC Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-23  8:20     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-13-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:32   ` [PATCH 12/15] mtd: nand: add Ambarella nand support Miquel Raynal
2023-01-23  8:32     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-23  8:32     ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-23  8:39 ` [PATCH 00/15] Ambarella S6LM SoC bring-up Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23  8:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23  8:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-24  2:08   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-01-24  2:08     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-01-24  2:08     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-01-25  2:24   ` Li Chen
2023-01-25  2:24     ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-7-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23  8:29   ` [PATCH 06/15] soc: add Ambarella driver Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-23  8:29     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-24  7:58     ` Li Chen
2023-01-24  7:58       ` Li Chen
2023-01-24 15:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-24 15:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-01-29  7:21         ` Li Chen [this message]
2023-01-29  7:21           ` Li Chen
2023-01-23 11:48   ` Conor.Dooley
2023-01-23 11:48     ` Conor.Dooley
2023-01-24  8:27     ` Li Chen
2023-01-24  8:27       ` Li Chen
2023-01-24  8:46       ` Conor.Dooley
2023-01-24  8:46         ` Conor.Dooley
2023-01-24 14:24         ` Li Chen
2023-01-24 14:24           ` Li Chen
     [not found] ` <20230123073305.149940-2-lchen@ambarella.com>
2023-01-23 11:52   ` [PATCH 01/15] debugfs: allow to use regmap for print regs Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-01-23 13:47     ` Li Chen

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