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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 1/3] printk-rb: new printk ringbuffer implementation (writer)
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:13:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fti1bipb.fsf@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191202154841.qikvuvqt4btudxzg@pathway.suse.cz> (Petr Mladek's message of "Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:48:41 +0100")

On 2019-12-02, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
>> +/*
>> + * Sanity checker for reserve size. The ringbuffer code assumes that a data
>> + * block does not exceed the maximum possible size that could fit within the
>> + * ringbuffer. This function provides that basic size check so that the
>> + * assumption is safe.
>> + */
>> +static bool data_check_size(struct prb_data_ring *data_ring, unsigned int size)
>> +{
>> +	struct prb_data_block *db = NULL;
>> +
>> +	/* Writers are not allowed to write data-less records. */
>> +	if (size == 0)
>> +		return false;
>
> I would personally let this decision to the API caller.
>
> The code actually have to support data-less records. They are used
> when the descriptor is reserved but the data block can't get reserved.

Exactly. Data-less records are how the ringbuffer identifies that data
has been lost. If users were allowed to store data-less records, that
destinction is no longer possible (unless I created some extra field in
the descriptor). Does it even make sense for printk to store data-less
records explicitly?

The current printk implementation silently ignores empty messages.

> The above statement might create false feeling that it could not
> happen later in the code. It might lead to bugs in writer code.

Then let me change the statement to describe that data-less records are
used internally by the ringbuffer and cannot be explicitly created by
writers.

> Also reader API users might not expect to get a "valid" data-less
> record.

Readers will never see them. The reader API implementation skips over
data-less records.

John Ogness

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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 1/3] printk-rb: new printk ringbuffer implementation (writer)
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 15:13:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fti1bipb.fsf@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191202154841.qikvuvqt4btudxzg@pathway.suse.cz> (Petr Mladek's message of "Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:48:41 +0100")

On 2019-12-02, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
>> +/*
>> + * Sanity checker for reserve size. The ringbuffer code assumes that a data
>> + * block does not exceed the maximum possible size that could fit within the
>> + * ringbuffer. This function provides that basic size check so that the
>> + * assumption is safe.
>> + */
>> +static bool data_check_size(struct prb_data_ring *data_ring, unsigned int size)
>> +{
>> +	struct prb_data_block *db = NULL;
>> +
>> +	/* Writers are not allowed to write data-less records. */
>> +	if (size == 0)
>> +		return false;
>
> I would personally let this decision to the API caller.
>
> The code actually have to support data-less records. They are used
> when the descriptor is reserved but the data block can't get reserved.

Exactly. Data-less records are how the ringbuffer identifies that data
has been lost. If users were allowed to store data-less records, that
destinction is no longer possible (unless I created some extra field in
the descriptor). Does it even make sense for printk to store data-less
records explicitly?

The current printk implementation silently ignores empty messages.

> The above statement might create false feeling that it could not
> happen later in the code. It might lead to bugs in writer code.

Then let me change the statement to describe that data-less records are
used internally by the ringbuffer and cannot be explicitly created by
writers.

> Also reader API users might not expect to get a "valid" data-less
> record.

Readers will never see them. The reader API implementation skips over
data-less records.

John Ogness

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-12-03 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-28  1:52 [RFC PATCH v5 0/3] printk: new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-11-28  1:52 ` John Ogness
2019-11-28  1:52 ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/3] printk-rb: new printk ringbuffer implementation (writer) John Ogness
2019-11-28  1:52   ` John Ogness
2019-12-02 15:48   ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-02 15:48     ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-02 15:59     ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-02 15:59       ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-02 16:37       ` John Ogness
2019-12-02 16:37         ` John Ogness
2019-12-03  1:17         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-03  1:17           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-03 14:18           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-12-03 14:18             ` Steven Rostedt
2019-12-05 12:01             ` John Ogness
2019-12-05 12:01               ` John Ogness
2019-12-03  8:54         ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-03  8:54           ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-03 14:13     ` John Ogness [this message]
2019-12-03 14:13       ` John Ogness
2019-12-03 14:36       ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-03 14:36         ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-09  9:19     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:19       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  7:42   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  7:42     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:00     ` John Ogness
2019-12-09  9:00       ` John Ogness
2019-12-09  9:27   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:27     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:34     ` John Ogness
2019-12-09  9:34       ` John Ogness
2019-12-21 14:22   ` Andrea Parri
2019-12-21 14:22     ` Andrea Parri
2019-12-23 16:01     ` John Ogness
2019-12-23 16:01       ` John Ogness
2020-01-03 10:24       ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-04 14:33         ` Andrea Parri
2019-11-28  1:52 ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/3] printk-rb: new printk ringbuffer implementation (reader) John Ogness
2019-11-28  1:52   ` John Ogness
2019-12-03 12:06   ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-03 12:06     ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-03 13:46     ` John Ogness
2019-12-03 13:46       ` John Ogness
2019-12-04 12:54       ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-04 12:54         ` Petr Mladek
2019-12-04 13:28         ` John Ogness
2019-12-04 13:28           ` John Ogness
2019-12-09  8:43   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  8:43     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:03     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:03       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  9:09     ` John Ogness
2019-12-09  9:09       ` John Ogness
2019-11-28  1:52 ` [RFC PATCH v5 3/3] printk-rb: add test module John Ogness
2019-11-28  1:52   ` John Ogness
2019-12-09  8:44   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-09  8:44     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-12-05 13:46 ` [RFC PATCH v5 0/3] printk: new ringbuffer implementation Prarit Bhargava
2019-12-05 13:46   ` Prarit Bhargava
2019-12-05 14:05   ` John Ogness
2019-12-05 14:05     ` John Ogness
2019-12-06 14:16     ` Prarit Bhargava
2019-12-06 14:16       ` Prarit Bhargava
2020-01-27 12:20 ` Eugeniu Rosca

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