From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
KONRAD Frederic <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 08:53:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvx460ba.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqqhktjx.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> writes:
> Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com> writes:
>> Forcing a guest driver change is a really big
>> deal and I see no reason to do that unless there's a compelling reason
>> to.
>>
>> So we're stuck with the 1.0 config layout for a very long time.
>
> We definitely must not force a guest change. The explicit aim of the
> standard is that "legacy" and 1.0 be backward compatible. One
> deliverable is a document detailing how this is done (effectively a
> summary of changes between what we have and 1.0).
If 2.0 is fully backwards compatible, great. It seems like such a
difference that that would be impossible but I need to investigate
further.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> It's a delicate balancing act. My plan is to accompany any changes in
> the standard with a qemu implementation, so we can see how painful those
> changes are. And if there are performance implications, measure them.
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty.
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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
KONRAD Frederic <fred.konrad@greensocs.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR
Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 08:53:45 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvx460ba.fsf@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wqqhktjx.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au> writes:
> Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com> writes:
>> Forcing a guest driver change is a really big
>> deal and I see no reason to do that unless there's a compelling reason
>> to.
>>
>> So we're stuck with the 1.0 config layout for a very long time.
>
> We definitely must not force a guest change. The explicit aim of the
> standard is that "legacy" and 1.0 be backward compatible. One
> deliverable is a document detailing how this is done (effectively a
> summary of changes between what we have and 1.0).
If 2.0 is fully backwards compatible, great. It seems like such a
difference that that would be impossible but I need to investigate
further.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
> It's a delicate balancing act. My plan is to accompany any changes in
> the standard with a qemu implementation, so we can see how painful those
> changes are. And if there are performance implications, measure them.
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty.
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-30 13:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-28 16:03 [PATCH RFC] virtio-pci: new config layout: using memory BAR Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 17:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-28 17:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 2:02 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-29 2:02 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-29 4:33 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 7:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 8:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 10:07 ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-05-29 4:33 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-28 18:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-28 19:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 4:31 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 4:31 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-29 8:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 8:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 9:00 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 10:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 10:53 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 12:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 12:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 12:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 12:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 12:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 13:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 13:35 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 13:35 ` Peter Maydell
2013-05-29 13:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 14:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 14:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 14:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-29 14:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 16:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 18:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-29 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-29 14:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 3:58 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30 3:58 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30 5:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-05-30 7:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03 0:17 ` Rusty Russell
2013-05-30 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2013-05-30 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-05-30 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-03 0:26 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-03 10:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-04 5:31 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-04 6:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 7:19 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-05 10:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 12:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 15:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 15:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 18:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 19:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 20:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 21:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 20:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 22:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05 22:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 23:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2013-06-05 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 19:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-06 3:42 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-06 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-07 1:58 ` Rusty Russell
2013-06-07 8:25 ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-05 21:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 21:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-05 21:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 21:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-05 22:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-05 23:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 0:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-06 6:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-06 13:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-07 11:30 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 7:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 7:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:03 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-11 8:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-11 8:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-06-06 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-06-06 15:06 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-06-06 15:10 ` Gleb Natapov
2013-06-06 15:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-06-06 15:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2013-07-08 4:25 ` Kevin O'Connor
2013-06-06 8:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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