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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@linaro.org>, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Tyler Baicar <tbaicar@codeaurora.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/11] signal/arm64: Document conflicts with SI_USER and SIGFPE, SIGTRAP, SIGBUS
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:24:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8rkflft.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180117171729.GJ22781@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (Dave Martin's message of "Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:17:29 +0000")

Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:23:03AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 06:59:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> >> Possible ABI fixes include:
>> >> - Send the signal without siginfo
>> >> - Don't generate a signal
>
> [...]
>
>> >> - Possibly assign and use an appropriate si_code
>> >> - Don't handle cases which can't happen
>> >
>> > I think a mixture of these two is the best approach.
>> >
>> > In any case, si_code == 0 here doesn't seem to have any explicit meaning.
>> > I think we can translate all of the arm64 faults to proper si_codes --
>> > see my sketch below.  Probably means a bit more thought though.
>
> [...]
>
>> >> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c b/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c
>
> [...]
>
>> >> @@ -607,70 +607,70 @@ static int do_sea(unsigned long addr, unsigned int esr, struct pt_regs *regs)
>> >>  }
>> >>  
>> >>  static const struct fault_info fault_info[] = {
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"ttbr address size fault"	},
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"level 1 address size fault"	},
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"level 2 address size fault"	},
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"level 3 address size fault"	},
>
> If I convert this kind of thing to SIGKILL there really is nothing
> sensible to put in si_code, except possibly SI_KERNEL (indicating that
> the kill did not come from userspace).  Even so, it hardly seems worth
> filling in fields like si_pid and si_uid just to make this "correct".
>
> In any case, if siginfo is never seen by userspace for SIGKILL this is
> moot.
>
> Obviously, siginfo is never copied to the user stack in that case, but
> is it also guaranteed not to be visible to userspace by other means?
> For ptrace I'm hoping not, since SIGKILL should nuke the tracee
> immediately instead of being reported to the tracer as a
> signal-delivery-stop -- so the tracer should get WIFSIGNALED() &&
> WTERMSIG() == SIGKILL.  A subsequent PTRACE_GETSIGINFO would fail with
> ESRCH.
>
> Does that match your understanding?
>
> If so, there is some merit in not pretending to pass a reall value
> for si_code.
>
> Should si_code simply be ignored for the SIGKILL case?

I know what x86 does in a similar case is it uses force_sig instead of
force_sig_info.  Then the generic code gets to worry about 

If the appropriate paths generic paths get to worry about what siginfo
to fill in in that case.  Which for SI_KERNEL is zero for everything
except the si_code and the si_signo.

That seems perfectly reasonable.

Eric

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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 07/11] signal/arm64: Document conflicts with SI_USER and SIGFPE, SIGTRAP, SIGBUS
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:24:06 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8rkflft.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180117171729.GJ22781@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (Dave Martin's message of "Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:17:29 +0000")

Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 11:23:03AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> writes:
>> 
>> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 06:59:36PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> >> Possible ABI fixes include:
>> >> - Send the signal without siginfo
>> >> - Don't generate a signal
>
> [...]
>
>> >> - Possibly assign and use an appropriate si_code
>> >> - Don't handle cases which can't happen
>> >
>> > I think a mixture of these two is the best approach.
>> >
>> > In any case, si_code == 0 here doesn't seem to have any explicit meaning.
>> > I think we can translate all of the arm64 faults to proper si_codes --
>> > see my sketch below.  Probably means a bit more thought though.
>
> [...]
>
>> >> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c b/arch/arm64/mm/fault.c
>
> [...]
>
>> >> @@ -607,70 +607,70 @@ static int do_sea(unsigned long addr, unsigned int esr, struct pt_regs *regs)
>> >>  }
>> >>  
>> >>  static const struct fault_info fault_info[] = {
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"ttbr address size fault"	},
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"level 1 address size fault"	},
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"level 2 address size fault"	},
>> >> -	{ do_bad,		SIGBUS,  0,		"level 3 address size fault"	},
>
> If I convert this kind of thing to SIGKILL there really is nothing
> sensible to put in si_code, except possibly SI_KERNEL (indicating that
> the kill did not come from userspace).  Even so, it hardly seems worth
> filling in fields like si_pid and si_uid just to make this "correct".
>
> In any case, if siginfo is never seen by userspace for SIGKILL this is
> moot.
>
> Obviously, siginfo is never copied to the user stack in that case, but
> is it also guaranteed not to be visible to userspace by other means?
> For ptrace I'm hoping not, since SIGKILL should nuke the tracee
> immediately instead of being reported to the tracer as a
> signal-delivery-stop -- so the tracer should get WIFSIGNALED() &&
> WTERMSIG() == SIGKILL.  A subsequent PTRACE_GETSIGINFO would fail with
> ESRCH.
>
> Does that match your understanding?
>
> If so, there is some merit in not pretending to pass a reall value
> for si_code.
>
> Should si_code simply be ignored for the SIGKILL case?

I know what x86 does in a similar case is it uses force_sig instead of
force_sig_info.  Then the generic code gets to worry about 

If the appropriate paths generic paths get to worry about what siginfo
to fill in in that case.  Which for SI_KERNEL is zero for everything
except the si_code and the si_signo.

That seems perfectly reasonable.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-17 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-12  0:57 [PATCH 00/11] siginfo fixes/cleanups esp SI_USER Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 01/11] signal: Simplify and fix kdb_send_sig Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 02/11] signal/sh: Ensure si_signo is initialized in do_divide_error Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 03/11] signal/openrisc: Fix do_unaligned_access to send the proper signal Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59   ` [OpenRISC] " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 13:25   ` Stafford Horne
2018-01-12 13:25     ` [OpenRISC] " Stafford Horne
2018-01-12 17:37     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 17:37       ` [OpenRISC] " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 04/11] signal/parisc: Document a conflict with SI_USER with SIGFPE Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 22:29   ` Helge Deller
2018-01-13 21:06     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-14  1:46       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-23  0:15     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-02-25 19:49       ` Helge Deller
2018-02-27  2:19         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 05/11] signal/metag: " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 06/11] signal/powerpc: Document conflicts with SI_USER and SIGFPE and SIGTRAP Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 07/11] signal/arm64: Document conflicts with SI_USER and SIGFPE,SIGTRAP,SIGBUS Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59   ` [PATCH 07/11] signal/arm64: Document conflicts with SI_USER and SIGFPE, SIGTRAP, SIGBUS Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-15 16:30   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 16:30     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 17:23     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-15 17:23       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16 17:24       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-16 22:28         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 11:46           ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 11:46             ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 11:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 11:57             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 12:15             ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 12:15               ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 12:37               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 12:37                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 15:37                 ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 15:37                   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 15:49                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 15:49                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 16:11                     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 16:11                       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 16:45                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 16:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 16:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 16:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 17:14                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-17 17:14                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-24 21:28                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-24 21:28                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-24 21:28                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 17:17       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 17:17         ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 17:24         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2018-01-17 17:24           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-17 17:39           ` Dave Martin
2018-01-17 17:39             ` Dave Martin
2018-01-15 19:30     ` James Morse
2018-01-15 19:30       ` James Morse
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 08/11] signal/arm: Document conflicts with SI_USER and SIGFPE Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-15 17:49   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-15 17:49     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-01-15 20:12     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-15 20:12       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16 17:41     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-19 12:05     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-19 12:05       ` Dave Martin
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 09/11] signal: Reduce copy_siginfo to just a memcpy Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 10/11] signal: Introduce clear_siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12  0:59 ` [PATCH 11/11] signal: Ensure generic siginfos the kernel sends have all bits initialized Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 20:29 ` [PATCH 0/2] siginfo fixes Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 20:29   ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 20:31   ` [PATCH 1/2] mn10300/misalignment: Use SIGSEGV SEGV_MAPERR to report a failed user copy Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-12 20:31   ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/mm/pkeys: Fix fill_sig_info_pkey Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-14 11:44     ` [tip:x86/urgent] " tip-bot for Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39   ` [PATCH 00/22] siginfo unification Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 01/22] signal: Document all of the signals that use the _sigfault union member Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 02/22] signal: Document the strange si_codes used by ptrace event stops Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 03/22] signal: Document glibc's si_code of SI_ASYNCNL Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 04/22] signal: Ensure no siginfo union member increases the size of struct siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 05/22] signal: Clear si_sys_private before copying siginfo to userspace Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 06/22] signal: Remove _sys_private and _overrun_incr from struct compat_siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 07/22] ia64/signal: switch to generic struct siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 08/22] signal/ia64: switch the last arch-specific copy_siginfo_to_user() to generic version Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 09/22] signal/mips: switch mips to generic siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 10/22] signal: Remove unnecessary ifdefs now that there is only one struct siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 11/22] signal: kill __ARCH_SI_UID_T Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:39     ` [PATCH 12/22] signal: unify compat_siginfo_t Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 13/22] signal: Move addr_lsb into the _sigfault union for clarity Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-16 19:00       ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-16 19:24         ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-16 20:06           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-03-16 20:33             ` Dave Hansen
2018-03-16 21:08               ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 14/22] signal/powerpc: Remove redefinition of NSIGTRAP on powerpc Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 15/22] signal/ia64: Move the ia64 specific si_codes to asm-generic/siginfo.h Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 16/22] signal/frv: Move the frv " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 17/22] signal/tile: Move the tile " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 18/22] signal/blackfin: Move the blackfin " Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 19/22] signal/blackfin: Remove pointless UID16_SIGINFO_COMPAT_NEEDED Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 20/22] signal: Unify and correct copy_siginfo_from_user32 Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 21/22] signal: Remove the code to clear siginfo before calling copy_siginfo_from_user32 Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-16  0:40     ` [PATCH 22/22] signal: Unify and correct copy_siginfo_to_user32 Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-19 18:03       ` Al Viro
2018-01-19 21:04         ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:05     ` [PATCH 00/10] siginfo infrastructure Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 01/10] ptrace: Use copy_siginfo in setsiginfo and getsiginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 02/10] signal/arm64: Better isolate the COMPAT_TASK portion of ptrace_hbptriggered Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 03/10] signal: Don't use structure initializers for struct siginfo Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 04/10] signal: Replace memset(info,...) with clear_siginfo for clarity Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 05/10] signal: Add send_sig_fault and force_sig_fault Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 06/10] signal: Helpers for faults with specialized siginfo layouts Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-24 19:26         ` Ram Pai
2018-01-24 20:54           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 07/10] signal/powerpc: Remove unnecessary signal_code parameter of do_send_trap Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 08/10] signal/ptrace: Add force_sig_ptrace_errno_trap and use it where needed Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 09/10] mm/memory_failure: Remove unused trapno from memory_failure Eric W. Biederman
2018-01-23 21:07       ` [PATCH 10/10] signal/memory-failure: Use force_sig_mceerr and send_sig_mceerr Eric W. Biederman

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