From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: David Stevens <stevensd@google.com>
Cc: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
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Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>, Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 12/13] x86: Add support for dynamic kernel stacks via FRED
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2026 18:46:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldbyhatz.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOiLmNGD08mLKAJvRZdaS7b+3BeR8Ln2G0sEqNCmbD6cRFzAxA@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jun 26 2026 at 21:05, David Stevens wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 3:39 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org> wrote:
> That is definitely a situation that could happen, I hadn't thought of
> it. Luckily, I don't think we need NMI-safe re-entrancy to handle
> this, since an NMI on SL0 couldn't have interrupted a dynamic stack
> fault.
Correct.
>> As a consequence you copy stack data around to the same place, which
>> should be benign, but it is well understood that memcpy() source and
>> destination areas _must_ not overlap. That's UB, no?
>>
>> I know that should not happen, but that doesn't make it less UB :)
>
> That sort of fault would probably end up either with a
> page_fault_oops() or risk a context switch with SL>0, but we shouldn't
> make debugging harder with UB.
Definitely not :)
You can avoid quite some of the problems right in the ASM entry code.
Instead of checking event type/vector and then going to the stack switch
logic, you can check the stack level on which the event happened
first. If it's not 0, then there is nothing to do.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-28 16:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-24 19:14 [PATCH v2 00/13] Dynamic Kernel Stacks David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] fork: Remove assumption that vm_area->nr_pages equals to THREAD_SIZE David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] fork: Don't assume fully populated stack during reuse David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] fork: Move vm_stack to the beginning of the stack David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] fork: separate vmap stack allocation and free calls David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] mm/vmalloc: Add a get_vm_area_node() and vmap_pages_range() public functions David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] fork: Move vmap stack freeing to work queue David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] fork: Dynamic Kernel Stacks David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] task_stack.h: Add stack_not_used() support for dynamic stack David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] fork: Dynamic Kernel Stack accounting David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] fork: Store task pointer in unpopulated stack ptes David Stevens
2026-06-26 22:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-27 23:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] x86/entry/fred: encode frame pointer on entry David Stevens
2026-05-20 22:24 ` David Stevens
2026-05-22 22:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-05-24 18:22 ` Xin Li
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] x86: Add support for dynamic kernel stacks via FRED David Stevens
2026-06-26 22:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-27 4:05 ` David Stevens
2026-06-28 16:46 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-06-28 20:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-04-24 19:14 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] x86: Add support for dynamic kernel stacks via IST David Stevens
2026-04-24 19:41 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Dynamic Kernel Stacks Dave Hansen
2026-04-24 21:35 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-04-24 22:21 ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-24 22:49 ` David Stevens
2026-04-24 22:26 ` David Laight
2026-04-24 23:06 ` Pasha Tatashin
2026-06-19 0:29 ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-19 19:56 ` Zach O'Keefe
2026-06-20 5:25 ` David Stevens
2026-06-20 23:22 ` Dave Hansen
2026-04-25 9:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-04-27 16:17 ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-18 14:50 ` Zach O'Keefe
2026-06-18 18:53 ` Dave Hansen
2026-06-18 22:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19 0:40 ` David Stevens
2026-06-19 0:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-19 12:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-19 19:20 ` Zach O'Keefe
2026-06-19 21:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-20 5:02 ` David Stevens
2026-06-20 21:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-20 19:33 ` Zach O'Keefe
2026-06-20 19:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-20 20:01 ` Zach O'Keefe
2026-06-20 23:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-22 23:00 ` Zach O'Keefe
2026-06-23 7:50 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-23 9:10 ` David Laight
2026-06-23 9:19 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-23 21:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-06-25 11:56 ` Andrew Cooper
2026-06-25 21:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-06-26 8:16 ` David Laight
2026-04-27 16:31 ` Pasha Tatashin
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