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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: He Ying <heying24@huawei.com>
Cc: <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>, <Valentin.Schneider@arm.com>,
	<andrew@lunn.ch>, <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	<f.fainelli@gmail.com>, <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	<jason@lakedaemon.net>, <kernel-team@android.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	<saravanak@google.com>, <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
	<tglx@linutronix.de>, <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/16] arm64: Allow IPIs to be handled as normal interrupts
Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 12:44:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmy4qe7e.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c66367b0-e8a0-2b7b-13c3-c9413462357c@huawei.com>

On Thu, 06 May 2021 08:50:42 +0100,
He Ying <heying24@huawei.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marc,
> 
> We have faced a performance regression for handling ipis since this
> commit. I think it's the same issue reported by Vincent.

Can you share more details on what regression you have observed?
What's the workload, the system, the performance drop?

> I found you pointed out the possible two causes:
> 
> (1) irq_enter/exit on the rescheduling IPI means we reschedule much
> more often.

It turned out to be a red herring. We don't reschedule more often, but
we instead suffer from the overhead of irq_enter()/irq_exit().
However, this only matters for silly benchmarks, and no real-life
workload showed any significant regression. Have you identified such
realistic workload?

> (2) irq_domain lookups add some overhead.

While this is also a potential source of overhead, it turned out not
to be the case.

> But I don't see any following patches in mainline. So, are you still
> working on this issue?  Looking forward to your reply.

See [1]. However, there is probably better things to do than this
low-level specialisation of IPIs, and Thomas outlined what needs to be
done (see v1 of the patch series).

Thanks,

	M.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201124141449.572446-1-maz@kernel.org/

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: He Ying <heying24@huawei.com>
Cc: <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>, <Valentin.Schneider@arm.com>,
	<andrew@lunn.ch>, <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	<f.fainelli@gmail.com>, <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	<jason@lakedaemon.net>, <kernel-team@android.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	<saravanak@google.com>, <sumit.garg@linaro.org>,
	<tglx@linutronix.de>, <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/16] arm64: Allow IPIs to be handled as normal interrupts
Date: Thu, 06 May 2021 12:44:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmy4qe7e.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c66367b0-e8a0-2b7b-13c3-c9413462357c@huawei.com>

On Thu, 06 May 2021 08:50:42 +0100,
He Ying <heying24@huawei.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Marc,
> 
> We have faced a performance regression for handling ipis since this
> commit. I think it's the same issue reported by Vincent.

Can you share more details on what regression you have observed?
What's the workload, the system, the performance drop?

> I found you pointed out the possible two causes:
> 
> (1) irq_enter/exit on the rescheduling IPI means we reschedule much
> more often.

It turned out to be a red herring. We don't reschedule more often, but
we instead suffer from the overhead of irq_enter()/irq_exit().
However, this only matters for silly benchmarks, and no real-life
workload showed any significant regression. Have you identified such
realistic workload?

> (2) irq_domain lookups add some overhead.

While this is also a potential source of overhead, it turned out not
to be the case.

> But I don't see any following patches in mainline. So, are you still
> working on this issue?  Looking forward to your reply.

See [1]. However, there is probably better things to do than this
low-level specialisation of IPIs, and Thomas outlined what needs to be
done (see v1 of the patch series).

Thanks,

	M.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20201124141449.572446-1-maz@kernel.org/

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Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-06 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-01 14:43 [PATCH v3 00/16] arm/arm64: Turning IPIs into normal interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] genirq: Add fasteoi IPI flow Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] genirq: Allow interrupts to be excluded from /proc/interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] arm64: Allow IPIs to be handled as normal interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-11 15:05   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-11 15:05     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-10-19 12:42   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-19 12:42     ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-19 13:04     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-19 13:04       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-19 15:43       ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-19 15:43         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-19 16:00         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-19 16:00           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-10-27 10:12         ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 10:12           ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 10:37           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-27 10:37             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-27 10:50             ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 10:50               ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 11:21               ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 11:21                 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 12:06                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-27 12:06                   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-10-27 13:17                   ` Vincent Guittot
2020-10-27 13:17                     ` Vincent Guittot
     [not found]                     ` <c66367b0-e8a0-2b7b-13c3-c9413462357c@huawei.com>
2021-05-06 11:44                       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-05-06 11:44                         ` Marc Zyngier
2021-05-07  7:30                         ` He Ying
2021-05-07  7:30                           ` He Ying
2021-05-07  8:56                           ` Marc Zyngier
2021-05-07  8:56                             ` Marc Zyngier
2021-05-07  9:31                             ` He Ying
2021-05-07  9:31                               ` He Ying
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] ARM: " Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] irqchip/gic-v3: Describe the SGI range Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] irqchip/gic-v3: Configure SGIs as standard interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] irqchip/gic: Refactor SMP configuration Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] irqchip/gic: Configure SGIs as standard interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 13:06   ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 13:06     ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 13:13     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 13:13       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 13:26       ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 13:26         ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 15:09         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 15:09           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-15  6:48           ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-15  6:48             ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-15  8:07             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-15  8:07               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-15  8:35               ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-15  8:35                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-15  9:48                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-15  9:48                   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 14:16     ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 14:16       ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 15:10       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 15:10         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 15:46         ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 15:46           ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 15:55           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 15:55             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 15:58             ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 15:58               ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 16:22               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 16:22                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 16:28                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 16:28                   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 19:08                   ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 19:08                     ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 19:06                 ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 19:06                   ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 19:26                   ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-09-16 19:26                     ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-09-16 19:39                     ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-16 19:39                       ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  7:40         ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-17  7:40           ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-17  7:50           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  7:50             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  7:54             ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  7:54               ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  8:45               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  8:45                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  8:49                 ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  8:49                   ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  8:54                   ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-17  8:54                     ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-17  9:09                     ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  9:09                       ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17  9:13                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-17  9:13                         ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-17  9:29                         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  9:29                           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17 14:53                     ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17 14:53                       ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17 18:24                       ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-17 18:24                         ` Jon Hunter
2020-09-18  8:24                         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-18  8:24                           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  8:56                   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17  8:56                     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-17 10:11                   ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-17 10:11                     ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-16 14:03   ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-16 14:03     ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-16 14:14     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-16 14:14       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-18  9:58   ` James Morse
2020-09-18  9:58     ` James Morse
2020-09-18 10:21     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-18 10:21       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] irqchip/gic-common: Don't enable SGIs by default Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] irqchip/bcm2836: Configure mailbox interrupts as standard interrupts Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 14:32   ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 14:32     ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 16:10     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 16:10       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-14 19:13       ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-14 19:13         ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] irqchip/hip04: Configure IPIs " Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] irqchip/armada-370-xp: " Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] arm64: Kill __smp_cross_call and co Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-11 15:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-11 15:06     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] arm64: Remove custom IRQ stat accounting Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-11 15:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-11 15:06     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] ARM: Kill __smp_cross_call and co Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] ARM: Remove custom IRQ stat accounting Marc Zyngier
2020-09-01 14:43   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-02  7:41   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-02  7:41     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-02  7:41     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-02 20:20     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-02 20:20       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-02 20:20       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-24  9:00   ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-24  9:00     ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-24  9:29     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-24  9:29       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-09-24 13:09       ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-24 13:09         ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-28  9:00         ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-28  9:00           ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-24 13:34     ` Fabio Estevam
2020-09-24 13:34       ` Fabio Estevam
2020-09-24 14:19       ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-24 14:19         ` Guillaume Tucker
2020-09-07  6:06 ` [PATCH v3 00/16] arm/arm64: Turning IPIs into normal interrupts hasegawa-hitomi
2020-09-07  6:06   ` hasegawa-hitomi
2020-09-16 16:54 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-09-16 16:54   ` Florian Fainelli

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