From: ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Bruno Prémont"
<bonbons-ud5FBsm0p/xEiooADzr8i9i2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Corey Minyard <cminyard-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
Linux Kernel
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Corey Minyard <minyard-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Move console redirect to pid namespace
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:08:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4kkuj4o.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130209191409.643c3d7f-hY15tx4IgV39zxVx7UNMDg@public.gmane.org> ("Bruno \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Pr\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=C3\=A9mont\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:14:09 +0100")
Bruno Prémont <bonbons@linux-vserver.org> writes:
> CCing containers list
>
> On Fri, 08 February 2013 minyard@acm.org wrote:
>> From: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
>>
>> The console redirect - ioctl(fd, TIOCCONS) - is not in a namespace,
>> thus a container can do a redirect and grab all the I/O on the host
>> and all container consoles.
>>
>> This change puts the redirect in the pid namespace.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
>> ---
>>
>> I'm pretty sure this patch is not correct, but I'm not quite sure the
>> best way to fix this. I'm not 100% sure that the pid namespace is the
>> right place, but it seemed the most reasonable of all the choices. The
>> other obvious choice is the mount namespace, but it didn't seem as good
>> a fit.
>
> With recent changes, tying it to init user namespace might even be
> better.
With recent changes this is tied to the initial user namespace. So the
simple solution to this and so many other similiar security problems is
to run your container in a user namespace.
The permission check currently is capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) which requires
the caller to have the CAP_SYS_ADMIN in the initial user namespace.
Is there a desire to have TIOCCONS not just fail in a container but to
have TIOCCONS work in a container specific way?
>> The other problem is that I don't think you can call fput() from
>> destroy_pid_namespace(). That can be called from interrupt context,
>> and I don't think fput() is safe there. I know it's not safe in 3.4
>> with the RT patch applied. However, the only way I've come up with to
>> fix it is to add a workqueue, and that seems a bit heavy for this.
Actually getting destroy_pid_namespace out of interrupt context wouldn't
be the worst thing in the world.
Eric
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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Bruno Prémont" <bonbons@linux-vserver.org>
Cc: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>,
Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Move console redirect to pid namespace
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:08:23 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4kkuj4o.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130209191409.643c3d7f@neptune.home> ("Bruno \=\?utf-8\?Q\?Pr\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?\=C3\=A9mont\=22's\?\= message of "Sat, 9 Feb 2013 19:14:09 +0100")
Bruno Prémont <bonbons@linux-vserver.org> writes:
> CCing containers list
>
> On Fri, 08 February 2013 minyard@acm.org wrote:
>> From: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
>>
>> The console redirect - ioctl(fd, TIOCCONS) - is not in a namespace,
>> thus a container can do a redirect and grab all the I/O on the host
>> and all container consoles.
>>
>> This change puts the redirect in the pid namespace.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Corey Minyard <cminyard@mvista.com>
>> ---
>>
>> I'm pretty sure this patch is not correct, but I'm not quite sure the
>> best way to fix this. I'm not 100% sure that the pid namespace is the
>> right place, but it seemed the most reasonable of all the choices. The
>> other obvious choice is the mount namespace, but it didn't seem as good
>> a fit.
>
> With recent changes, tying it to init user namespace might even be
> better.
With recent changes this is tied to the initial user namespace. So the
simple solution to this and so many other similiar security problems is
to run your container in a user namespace.
The permission check currently is capable(CAP_SYS_ADMIN) which requires
the caller to have the CAP_SYS_ADMIN in the initial user namespace.
Is there a desire to have TIOCCONS not just fail in a container but to
have TIOCCONS work in a container specific way?
>> The other problem is that I don't think you can call fput() from
>> destroy_pid_namespace(). That can be called from interrupt context,
>> and I don't think fput() is safe there. I know it's not safe in 3.4
>> with the RT patch applied. However, the only way I've come up with to
>> fix it is to add a workqueue, and that seems a bit heavy for this.
Actually getting destroy_pid_namespace out of interrupt context wouldn't
be the worst thing in the world.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-13 19:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-09 2:28 [PATCH] Move console redirect to pid namespace minyard
[not found] ` <1360376920-30824-1-git-send-email-minyard-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-09 18:14 ` Bruno Prémont
2013-02-09 18:14 ` Bruno Prémont
[not found] ` <20130209191409.643c3d7f-hY15tx4IgV39zxVx7UNMDg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 19:08 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2013-02-13 19:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87r4kkuj4o.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 2:08 ` Corey Minyard
2013-02-15 2:08 ` Corey Minyard
[not found] ` <511D9890.1040900-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 4:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-15 4:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87d2w29pdo.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-15 14:50 ` Corey Minyard
2013-02-15 14:50 ` Corey Minyard
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