From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
ksummit@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit?
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 10:28:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v796o6ol.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e5bde7b3a9093fa4a9b27f47a3bea9f8c5a6101f@intel.com>
On Tue, 18 Aug 2026 11:38:08 +0200,
Jani Nikula wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 06:33:05AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> >
> >> So I remember some of the problem, if you cherry-pick with -x the
> >> complaint was we had commits in -fixes with a cherry-pick commit id
> >> that wasn't in Linus' tree at that time.
> >
> >> It would of course later materialise in Linus' tree when the next
> >> merge window occurred since we don't rebase, but this either broke
> >> people's brains or scripts badly enough we got push back on it.
> >
> >> I think we should definitely do -x on all cherry-picks and I'll push
> >> to make sure we start doing it again.
> >
> > That'd be helpful, thanks - I guess you're going to annoy someone
> > either way unfortunately but at least the commit not in mainline issue
> > would be transient.
>
> We use the drm subsystem maintainer tool for cherry-picks, and it uses
> the -x option.
>
> If you have any suggestions for helpful but non-intrusive additional
> annotations on cherry-picked commits, it should be easy enough to update
> the tool. And perhaps the annotation could be more widely adopted as
> well. It's not like nobody else ever cherry-picks, we just do it
> more. The annotation could still be the same.
The cherry-pick -x option helps a lot indeed, that's fine, per se.
However, the oddity is that the original commit comes to the upstream
a few weeks later again while the cherry-pick commit got already
merged earlier. And, of course, the original commit has no notion
showing this is a dup.
So, a single direction cherry-pick solution doesn't suffice, and IMO,
we need to have some reverse-mapping of the aliases. This could be
some external content or some other way.
(I could think of git-notes, but people won't agree, judging from the
historical development and the implementation of git-notes.)
thanks,
Takashi
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Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-06 15:34 [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit? James Bottomley
2026-08-06 23:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 13:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-08-07 14:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 16:33 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 17:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-08-07 19:03 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 19:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 20:12 ` Shuah Khan
2026-08-09 1:51 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-09 18:47 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-09 19:04 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-08-09 21:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 8:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-10 13:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 20:35 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-10 21:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11 0:14 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 13:09 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-18 14:02 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 14:21 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-08-18 15:32 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-18 17:46 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 18:18 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 14:52 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-18 16:45 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-18 17:00 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-18 17:25 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 21:56 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-10 1:26 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-10 2:40 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-10 8:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-10 14:56 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-10 15:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 18:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 18:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-09 22:10 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-10 7:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-10 13:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 13:32 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-10 14:24 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 15:23 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-10 15:52 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-11 3:24 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-11 5:29 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-08-11 6:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-11 13:29 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-10 22:47 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-11 8:12 ` Dup commits in NFC trees [Was: Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit?] Matthieu Baerts
2026-08-11 13:17 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-11 16:39 ` David Heidelberg
2026-08-11 16:58 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-11 3:29 ` [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Time to call it quits for the maintainer summit? Dave Airlie
2026-08-11 7:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-11 8:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-11 19:54 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2026-08-11 23:10 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-12 20:33 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-13 11:48 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-18 9:38 ` Jani Nikula
2026-08-18 16:50 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-19 8:28 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2026-08-19 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2026-08-11 14:26 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-12 6:00 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-12 6:20 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-12 7:07 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-08-12 7:41 ` Greg KH
2026-08-12 8:05 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-12 12:48 ` Mark Brown
2026-08-10 21:30 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-10 21:45 ` Liam R. Howlett
2026-08-11 8:22 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-11 8:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-11 9:06 ` Jiri Kosina
2026-08-11 9:34 ` Dave Airlie
2026-08-11 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-10 7:42 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-08-10 15:07 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-07 12:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 13:09 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-07 13:28 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-08-07 20:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2026-08-07 19:15 ` Chris Mason
2026-08-07 19:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-07 23:19 ` Theodore Tso
2026-08-10 13:54 ` James Bottomley
2026-08-10 14:41 ` Steven Rostedt
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