From: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
To: Howard Chu <hyc@symas.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sched_yield() makes OpenLDAP slow
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:20:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zmranm4m.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43095E10.3010003@symas.com> (Howard Chu's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2005 22:09:36 -0700")
* Howard Chu:
>>> Has anybody contacted the Sleepycat people with a description of
>>> the problem yet?
>> Berkeley DB does not call sched_yield, but OpenLDAP does in some
>> wrapper code around the Berkeley DB backend.
> That's not the complete story. BerkeleyDB provides a
> db_env_set_func_yield() hook to tell it what yield function it should
> use when its internal locking routines need such a function. If you
> don't set a specific hook, it just uses sleep(). The OpenLDAP backend
> will invoke this hook during some (not necessarily all) init sequences,
> to tell it to use the thread yield function that we selected in autoconf.
And this helps to increase performance substantially?
> Note that (on systems that support inter-process mutexes) a BerkeleyDB
> database environment may be used by multiple processes concurrently.
Yes, I know this, and I haven't experienced that much trouble with
deadlocks. Maybe the way you structure and access the database
environment can be optimized for deadlock avoidance?
> As such, the yield function that is provided must work both for
> threads within a single process (PTHREAD_SCOPE_PROCESS) as well as
> between processes (PTHREAD_SCOPE_SYSTEM).
If I understand you correctly, what you really need is a syscall along
the lines "don't run me again until all threads T that share property
X have run, where the Ts aren't necessarily in the same process". The
kernel is psychic, it can't really know which processes to schedule to
satisfy such a requirement. I don't even think "has joined the
Berkeley DB environment" is the desired property, but something like
"is part of this cycle in the wait-for graph" or something similar.
I would have to check the Berkeley DB internals in order to tell what
is feasible to implement. This code shouldn't be on the fast path, so
some kernel-based synchronization is probably sufficient.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-08-22 21:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <43057641.70700@symas.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
[not found] ` <17157.45712.877795.437505@gargle.gargle.HOWL.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
[not found] ` <430666DB.70802@symas.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-08-20 13:48 ` sched_yield() makes OpenLDAP slow Andi Kleen
2005-08-21 19:47 ` Florian Weimer
2005-08-22 5:09 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-22 13:06 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-22 18:47 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-22 13:20 ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2005-08-22 23:19 ` Howard Chu
2006-01-24 22:59 e100 oops on resume Stefan Seyfried
2006-01-24 23:21 ` Mattia Dongili
2006-01-25 9:02 ` Olaf Kirch
2006-01-25 12:11 ` Olaf Kirch
2006-01-25 13:51 ` sched_yield() makes OpenLDAP slow Howard Chu
2006-01-25 14:38 ` Robert Hancock
2006-01-25 17:49 ` Christopher Friesen
2006-01-26 1:07 ` David Schwartz
2006-01-26 8:30 ` Helge Hafting
2006-01-26 9:01 ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-26 10:50 ` Nikita Danilov
[not found] <5uZqb-4fo-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-01-14 22:47 ` Robert Hancock
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2006-01-14 19:29 Howard Chu
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2005-08-20 3:20 ` Robert Hancock
2005-08-20 4:18 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-20 18:38 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-20 20:57 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-20 21:24 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-21 0:36 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-21 11:33 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-08-22 8:06 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-20 21:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-08-21 1:04 ` Robert Hancock
2005-08-22 11:44 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-22 14:26 ` Robert Hancock
2005-08-23 11:17 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-08-23 12:07 ` Denis Vlasenko
2005-08-24 3:37 ` Lincoln Dale
2005-08-19 6:03 Howard Chu
2005-08-19 6:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-19 6:59 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-08-19 22:45 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-19 10:21 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-08-19 23:10 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-20 13:23 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-08-20 19:49 ` Howard Chu
2005-08-20 22:08 ` Nikita Danilov
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2005-08-19 3:19 ` Andi Kleen
2005-08-19 3:30 ` Bernardo Innocenti
2005-08-18 0:50 Bernardo Innocenti
2005-08-18 0:47 ` Con Kolivas
2005-08-18 10:48 ` Maciej Soltysiak
2005-08-18 1:07 ` Joseph Fannin
2005-08-18 2:25 ` Bernardo Innocenti
2005-08-18 2:58 ` Nick Piggin
2005-08-19 3:10 ` Bernardo Innocenti
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