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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
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	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
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	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
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	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Paul Walmsley <pjw@kernel.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
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	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andreas Larsson <andreas@gaisler.com>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ning Sun <ning.sun@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, tboot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/22] x86/tboot: mark tboot_mm as a kernel mm
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 08:19:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8acb01ac-0875-4816-8826-59e15b4e30b8@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260714-remove_pgtable_cdtor-v1-19-44be8a7685d7@arm.com>

On 7/14/26 07:04, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> tboot_mm is a kernel-owned address space used to build the
> identity map for tboot shutdown. Mark it with MMF_KERNEL so
> page table allocation and initialisation code treats its page tables
> as kernel page tables.
> 
> Having marked tboot_mm as a kernel mm, we also need to convert
> pte_alloc_map() (user PTE) to pte_alloc_kernel() (kernel PTE), and
> drop the matching pte_unmap().

This makes me wonder whether MMF_KERNEL is the right way to mark these mms.

I think this series tries to cram too much into that one bit.

Using MMF_KERNEL to drive the page table accounting seems like a good
idea. It also seems like a good thing to make sure that those mm's don't
ever exit to userspace, for instance.

But I think it goes a step too far to say that all the special 'init_mm'
TLB flushing should also be common among all MMF_KERNEL mms.

My suggestion for now would be to just go after the page table
accounting alone. Don't mechanically replace mm==&mm_init checks.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Paul Walmsley <pjw@kernel.org>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Andreas Larsson <andreas@gaisler.com>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ning Sun <ning.sun@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, tboot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 19/22] x86/tboot: mark tboot_mm as a kernel mm
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 08:19:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8acb01ac-0875-4816-8826-59e15b4e30b8@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260714-remove_pgtable_cdtor-v1-19-44be8a7685d7@arm.com>

On 7/14/26 07:04, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> tboot_mm is a kernel-owned address space used to build the
> identity map for tboot shutdown. Mark it with MMF_KERNEL so
> page table allocation and initialisation code treats its page tables
> as kernel page tables.
> 
> Having marked tboot_mm as a kernel mm, we also need to convert
> pte_alloc_map() (user PTE) to pte_alloc_kernel() (kernel PTE), and
> drop the matching pte_unmap().

This makes me wonder whether MMF_KERNEL is the right way to mark these mms.

I think this series tries to cram too much into that one bit.

Using MMF_KERNEL to drive the page table accounting seems like a good
idea. It also seems like a good thing to make sure that those mm's don't
ever exit to userspace, for instance.

But I think it goes a step too far to say that all the special 'init_mm'
TLB flushing should also be common among all MMF_KERNEL mms.

My suggestion for now would be to just go after the page table
accounting alone. Don't mechanically replace mm==&mm_init checks.

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-14 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14 14:03 [PATCH 00/22] Simplify special kernel page table handling Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 01/22] mm: drop unused __mm_flags_set_mask_bits_word() Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 02/22] mm: move mm_flags helpers to mm_types.h Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 03/22] mm: introduce MMF_KERNEL flag and set it for init_mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:47   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:47     ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 15:04     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-14 15:04       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 04/22] mm: use mm_is_kernel() in generic page table code Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:28   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 05/22] arm64: mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 06/22] loongarch: mm: use mm_is_kernel() in switch_mm_irqs_off() Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 07/22] parisc: mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 08/22] powerpc: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 09/22] s390: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 10/22] sparc: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 11/22] um: mm: use mm_is_kernel() in TLB sync Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 12/22] x86/mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:09   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 15:09     ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 13/22] mm: account page table pages when allocated Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:54   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 14/22] mm: set page table page type " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:54   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 15:16   ` Vishal Moola
2026-07-14 15:16     ` Vishal Moola
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 15/22] mm: only initialise pt_share_count for user pgtables Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 16/22] efi: mark efi_mm as a kernel mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:16   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 17/22] mm: pagewalk: drop redundant address check for kernel mm walks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:42   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 18/22] arm64: mm: drop explicit mm_is_efi() check in contpte Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 19/22] x86/tboot: mark tboot_mm as a kernel mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:19   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2026-07-14 15:19     ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 20/22] arm64: mm: drop ctor/dtor calls for kernel page tables Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 21/22] arm: mm: drop ctor call " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 22/22] riscv: mm: drop ctor/dtor calls " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04   ` Kevin Brodsky

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