From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/22] mm: introduce MMF_KERNEL flag and set it for init_mm
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 16:04:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alZOs30ziqa7l_Lq@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71045fa8-89fe-4a0b-a05b-67e19ce89834@intel.com>
On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 07:47:43AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/14/26 07:03, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> > +static inline bool mm_is_kernel(const struct mm_struct *mm)
> > +{
> > + return mm && mm_flags_test(MMF_KERNEL, mm);
> > +}
>
> Could we give this some nice comments explaining what a kernel mm is,
> please? Part of the problem with the init_mm checks is that they're
> magic and it's not always clear what's special about init_mm.
>
> Maybe start with this list?
>
> 1. There's only one of them.
> 2. All kernel threads share it. tsk->mm is the same for all kernel
> threads.
> 3. It holds the reference copy of the kernel page tables
> 4. Userspace can't be entered when it is the current mm
> 5. It has different TLB flushing rules than userspace mms
>
> I _think_ those are universal across all architectures.
Well point 1 isn't true of efimm or tboot_mm so we possibly need a better
name :)
"Special" is overloaded too much already. I quite like "eternal" so:
static inline bool mm_is_eternal(const struct mm_struct *mm)
{
return mm && mm_flags_test(MMF_ETERNAL, mm);
}
:)
Cheers, Lorenzo
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
loongarch@lists.linux.dev,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
Madhavan Srinivasan <maddy@linux.ibm.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Paul Walmsley <pjw@kernel.org>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andreas Larsson <andreas@gaisler.com>,
sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com>,
Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
linux-um@lists.infradead.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ning Sun <ning.sun@intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, tboot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, Vishal Moola <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/22] mm: introduce MMF_KERNEL flag and set it for init_mm
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 16:04:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alZOs30ziqa7l_Lq@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71045fa8-89fe-4a0b-a05b-67e19ce89834@intel.com>
On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 07:47:43AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/14/26 07:03, Kevin Brodsky wrote:
> > +static inline bool mm_is_kernel(const struct mm_struct *mm)
> > +{
> > + return mm && mm_flags_test(MMF_KERNEL, mm);
> > +}
>
> Could we give this some nice comments explaining what a kernel mm is,
> please? Part of the problem with the init_mm checks is that they're
> magic and it's not always clear what's special about init_mm.
>
> Maybe start with this list?
>
> 1. There's only one of them.
> 2. All kernel threads share it. tsk->mm is the same for all kernel
> threads.
> 3. It holds the reference copy of the kernel page tables
> 4. Userspace can't be entered when it is the current mm
> 5. It has different TLB flushing rules than userspace mms
>
> I _think_ those are universal across all architectures.
Well point 1 isn't true of efimm or tboot_mm so we possibly need a better
name :)
"Special" is overloaded too much already. I quite like "eternal" so:
static inline bool mm_is_eternal(const struct mm_struct *mm)
{
return mm && mm_flags_test(MMF_ETERNAL, mm);
}
:)
Cheers, Lorenzo
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-14 14:03 [PATCH 00/22] Simplify special kernel page table handling Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 01/22] mm: drop unused __mm_flags_set_mask_bits_word() Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 02/22] mm: move mm_flags helpers to mm_types.h Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 03/22] mm: introduce MMF_KERNEL flag and set it for init_mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:47 ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:47 ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 15:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]
2026-07-14 15:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 04/22] mm: use mm_is_kernel() in generic page table code Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:28 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 05/22] arm64: mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 06/22] loongarch: mm: use mm_is_kernel() in switch_mm_irqs_off() Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 07/22] parisc: mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 08/22] powerpc: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 09/22] s390: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 10/22] sparc: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 11/22] um: mm: use mm_is_kernel() in TLB sync Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 12/22] x86/mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:09 ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 15:09 ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 13/22] mm: account page table pages when allocated Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:54 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 14/22] mm: set page table page type " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:54 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 15:16 ` Vishal Moola
2026-07-14 15:16 ` Vishal Moola
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 15/22] mm: only initialise pt_share_count for user pgtables Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 16/22] efi: mark efi_mm as a kernel mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:16 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 17/22] mm: pagewalk: drop redundant address check for kernel mm walks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:42 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 18/22] arm64: mm: drop explicit mm_is_efi() check in contpte Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 19/22] x86/tboot: mark tboot_mm as a kernel mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:19 ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 15:19 ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 20/22] arm64: mm: drop ctor/dtor calls for kernel page tables Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:56 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 21/22] arm: mm: drop ctor call " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 22/22] riscv: mm: drop ctor/dtor calls " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` Kevin Brodsky
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