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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, sumit.semwal@linaro.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap()
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:14:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8db2474f-ecb7-0e17-5f5b-145708fe44d5@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200916140710.GA8409@ziepe.ca>

Am 16.09.20 um 16:07 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>
>> But within the driver, we generally need thousands of these, and that
>> tends to bring fd exhaustion problems with it. That's why all the private
>> buffer objects which aren't shared with other process or other drivers are
>> handles only valid for a specific fd instance of the drm chardev (each
>> open gets their own namespace), and only for ioctls done on that chardev.
>> And for mmap we assign fake (but unique across all open fd on it) offsets
>> within the overall chardev. Hence all the pgoff mangling and re-mangling.
> Are they still unique struct files? Just without a fdno?

Yes, exactly.

>> Hence why we'd like to be able to forward aliasing mappings and adjust the
>> file and pgoff, while hopefully everything keeps working. I thought this
>> would work, but Christian noticed it doesn't really.
> It seems reasonable to me that the dma buf should be the owner of the
> VMA, otherwise like you say, there is a big mess attaching the custom
> vma ops and what not to the proper dma buf.
>
> I don't see anything obviously against this in mmap_region() - why did
> Chritian notice it doesn't really work?

To clarify I think this might work.

I just had the same "Is that legal?", "What about security?", etc.. 
questions you raised as well.

It seems like a source of trouble so I thought better ask somebody more 
familiar with that.

Christian.

>
> Jason

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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, sumit.semwal@linaro.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap()
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 16:14:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8db2474f-ecb7-0e17-5f5b-145708fe44d5@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200916140710.GA8409@ziepe.ca>

Am 16.09.20 um 16:07 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 11:53:59AM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>
>> But within the driver, we generally need thousands of these, and that
>> tends to bring fd exhaustion problems with it. That's why all the private
>> buffer objects which aren't shared with other process or other drivers are
>> handles only valid for a specific fd instance of the drm chardev (each
>> open gets their own namespace), and only for ioctls done on that chardev.
>> And for mmap we assign fake (but unique across all open fd on it) offsets
>> within the overall chardev. Hence all the pgoff mangling and re-mangling.
> Are they still unique struct files? Just without a fdno?

Yes, exactly.

>> Hence why we'd like to be able to forward aliasing mappings and adjust the
>> file and pgoff, while hopefully everything keeps working. I thought this
>> would work, but Christian noticed it doesn't really.
> It seems reasonable to me that the dma buf should be the owner of the
> VMA, otherwise like you say, there is a big mess attaching the custom
> vma ops and what not to the proper dma buf.
>
> I don't see anything obviously against this in mmap_region() - why did
> Chritian notice it doesn't really work?

To clarify I think this might work.

I just had the same "Is that legal?", "What about security?", etc.. 
questions you raised as well.

It seems like a source of trouble so I thought better ask somebody more 
familiar with that.

Christian.

>
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-16 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-14 13:29 Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap() Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29 ` Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/shmem-helpers: revert "Redirect mmap for imported dma-buf" Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29   ` Christian König
2020-09-15 10:39   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 10:39     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 11:03     ` Christian König
2020-09-15 11:03       ` Christian König
2020-09-15 11:07       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-15 11:07         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-14 13:29 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: introduce vma_set_file function Christian König
2020-09-14 13:29   ` Christian König
2020-09-15  9:19   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15  9:19     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15  9:19     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57   ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-15 11:57     ` kernel test robot
2020-09-14 13:30 ` Changing vma->vm_file in dma_buf_mmap() Christian König
2020-09-14 13:30   ` Christian König
2020-09-14 14:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 14:06     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 18:26     ` Christian König
2020-09-14 18:26       ` Christian König
2020-09-16  9:53       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16  9:53         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 10:14         ` Christian König
2020-09-16 10:14           ` Christian König
2020-09-16 11:45           ` Christian König
2020-09-16 11:45             ` Christian König
2020-09-16 12:41             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 12:41               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 14:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:07           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:14           ` Christian König [this message]
2020-09-16 14:14             ` Christian König
2020-09-16 15:24             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:24               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-16 15:31               ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2020-09-16 15:31                 ` Christian König
2020-09-17  6:23                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  6:23                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  7:11                   ` Christian König
2020-09-17  7:11                     ` Christian König
2020-09-17  8:09                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17  8:09                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 11:31                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 11:31                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:03                         ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:03                           ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:18                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:18                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 12:24                             ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:24                               ` Christian König
2020-09-17 12:26                               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 12:26                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 14:35                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:35                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:54                                 ` Christian König
2020-09-17 14:54                                   ` Christian König
2020-09-17 15:24                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 15:24                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 15:37                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 15:37                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 16:06                                       ` Christian König
2020-09-17 16:06                                         ` Christian König
2020-09-17 16:39                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 16:39                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 17:23                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-09-17 17:23                                             ` Daniel Vetter

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