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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>
Cc: Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Hanks Chen <hanks.chen@mediatek.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <wichtig@fw-web.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <linux@fw-web.de>,
	Collabora Kernel ML <kernel@collabora.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver"
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:17:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93debe6a0308b66d3f307af67ba7ec2c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95ae0ae3-7798-d6d5-fc37-391862a0b4ca@collabora.com>

Hi Enric,

On 2020-08-21 10:20, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
> On 20/8/20 16:53, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 2020-08-20 09:07, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:56 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2020-08-19 19:51, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:52 AM Frank Wunderlich <wichtig@fw-web.de>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> does the fix you've linked to my revert [1] not work in your case?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11718481/
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for pointing it out Frank. Also, might want to avoid top
>>>> > posting in the future.
>>>> >
>>>> > Enric, Can you please try that other fix and see if that solves your
>>>> > issue?
>>>> 
>>>> I think Enric was clear that the driver does probe correctly
>>>> (meaning that he has the fix in his tree). It is everything else
>>>> that breaks, because none of the drivers on the platform are
>>>> equipped to defer their own probing.
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to change this works right now, meaning that we 
>>>> can't
>>>> blindly change the behaviour of *built-in* drivers. I'll see if I 
>>>> can
>>>> come up with something quickly, but I'll otherwise take Enric patch.
>>> 
>>> Sounds fair Marc.
>>> 
>>> Btw, Enric, out of curiosity, can you try adding "fw_devlink=on" to
>>> your kernel command line to see if it helps? It basically ensures
>>> proper probe ordering without depending on the drivers. There are 
>>> some
>>> corner cases where it still can't work properly (too much to explain
>>> for a late night email), but if the platforms don't have those corner
>>> cases it'll work perfectly.
>>> 
>>> I'm fine with the revert if Marc isn't able to find a quick fix to 
>>> the
>>> drivers, but this might also fix your problem right away.
>> 
>> I'm afraid there is no quick fix if we want to preserve the current
>> behavior with built-in drivers, and not having "fw_devlink=on" by
>> default makes it irrelevant for most people.
>> 
>> fw_devlink also prevents my test platforms from booting (my rk3399
>> doesn't find its PCI devices with it), while the same kernel boots
>> just fine without it. It could well be that the corner case is
>> likely to be more prevalent than you seem to expect.
>> 
>> I will probably end-up end-up queuing reverts for both mtk-sysirq,
>> mtk-cirq, and qcom-pdc (the first two can't be built as module with
>> mainline anyway, and I seem to remember that the latter caused some
>> controversy as well).
>> 
>> As an experiment, I have pushed out a branch[1] that implements
>> a "hybrid" probe, retaining the previous early probe mechanism when
>> the driver is built-in, and letting things rip when built as a
>> module (if you do that, you hopefully know what you are doing).
>> I'd welcome some testing on affected platforms (I don't have
>> anything I can run mainline on that'd be affected).
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately, my Kukui (MT8183) board doesn't boot at all with those 
> patches. I
> only did a quick test and I didn't dig further, please let me know if 
> you want I
> debug more the issue. IMHO, right now, the revert seems to be the 
> better
> solution for this cycle.

It'd be good if you could help with that, but I will definitely apply
the revert (below for the revert list). Any change is too invasive to
be added to this cycle.

920ecb8c35cb irqchip/mtk-cirq: Convert to a platform driver
f97dbf48ca43 irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver
5be57099d445 irqchip/qcom-pdc: Switch to using IRQCHIP_PLATFORM_DRIVER 
helper macros
95bf9305d2e3 irqchip/qcom-pdc: Allow QCOM_PDC to be loadable as a 
permanent module

Thanks,

         M.
-- 
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>
Cc: Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Hanks Chen <hanks.chen@mediatek.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <wichtig@fw-web.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support"
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <linux@fw-web.de>,
	Collabora Kernel ML <kernel@collabora.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver"
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:17:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93debe6a0308b66d3f307af67ba7ec2c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95ae0ae3-7798-d6d5-fc37-391862a0b4ca@collabora.com>

Hi Enric,

On 2020-08-21 10:20, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
> On 20/8/20 16:53, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 2020-08-20 09:07, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:56 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2020-08-19 19:51, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:52 AM Frank Wunderlich <wichtig@fw-web.de>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> does the fix you've linked to my revert [1] not work in your case?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11718481/
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for pointing it out Frank. Also, might want to avoid top
>>>> > posting in the future.
>>>> >
>>>> > Enric, Can you please try that other fix and see if that solves your
>>>> > issue?
>>>> 
>>>> I think Enric was clear that the driver does probe correctly
>>>> (meaning that he has the fix in his tree). It is everything else
>>>> that breaks, because none of the drivers on the platform are
>>>> equipped to defer their own probing.
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to change this works right now, meaning that we 
>>>> can't
>>>> blindly change the behaviour of *built-in* drivers. I'll see if I 
>>>> can
>>>> come up with something quickly, but I'll otherwise take Enric patch.
>>> 
>>> Sounds fair Marc.
>>> 
>>> Btw, Enric, out of curiosity, can you try adding "fw_devlink=on" to
>>> your kernel command line to see if it helps? It basically ensures
>>> proper probe ordering without depending on the drivers. There are 
>>> some
>>> corner cases where it still can't work properly (too much to explain
>>> for a late night email), but if the platforms don't have those corner
>>> cases it'll work perfectly.
>>> 
>>> I'm fine with the revert if Marc isn't able to find a quick fix to 
>>> the
>>> drivers, but this might also fix your problem right away.
>> 
>> I'm afraid there is no quick fix if we want to preserve the current
>> behavior with built-in drivers, and not having "fw_devlink=on" by
>> default makes it irrelevant for most people.
>> 
>> fw_devlink also prevents my test platforms from booting (my rk3399
>> doesn't find its PCI devices with it), while the same kernel boots
>> just fine without it. It could well be that the corner case is
>> likely to be more prevalent than you seem to expect.
>> 
>> I will probably end-up end-up queuing reverts for both mtk-sysirq,
>> mtk-cirq, and qcom-pdc (the first two can't be built as module with
>> mainline anyway, and I seem to remember that the latter caused some
>> controversy as well).
>> 
>> As an experiment, I have pushed out a branch[1] that implements
>> a "hybrid" probe, retaining the previous early probe mechanism when
>> the driver is built-in, and letting things rip when built as a
>> module (if you do that, you hopefully know what you are doing).
>> I'd welcome some testing on affected platforms (I don't have
>> anything I can run mainline on that'd be affected).
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately, my Kukui (MT8183) board doesn't boot at all with those 
> patches. I
> only did a quick test and I didn't dig further, please let me know if 
> you want I
> debug more the issue. IMHO, right now, the revert seems to be the 
> better
> solution for this cycle.

It'd be good if you could help with that, but I will definitely apply
the revert (below for the revert list). Any change is too invasive to
be added to this cycle.

920ecb8c35cb irqchip/mtk-cirq: Convert to a platform driver
f97dbf48ca43 irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver
5be57099d445 irqchip/qcom-pdc: Switch to using IRQCHIP_PLATFORM_DRIVER 
helper macros
95bf9305d2e3 irqchip/qcom-pdc: Allow QCOM_PDC to be loadable as a 
permanent module

Thanks,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>
Cc: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <wichtig@fw-web.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Collabora Kernel ML <kernel@collabora.com>,
	Frank Wunderlich <linux@fw-web.de>,
	Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@gmail.com>,
	Nicolas Boichat <drinkcat@chromium.org>,
	Hsin-Yi Wang <hsinyi@chromium.org>,
	Hanks Chen <hanks.chen@mediatek.com>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" 
	<linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver"
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:17:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <93debe6a0308b66d3f307af67ba7ec2c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <95ae0ae3-7798-d6d5-fc37-391862a0b4ca@collabora.com>

Hi Enric,

On 2020-08-21 10:20, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
> On 20/8/20 16:53, Marc Zyngier wrote:
>> On 2020-08-20 09:07, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 12:56 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2020-08-19 19:51, Saravana Kannan wrote:
>>>> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 9:52 AM Frank Wunderlich <wichtig@fw-web.de>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> does the fix you've linked to my revert [1] not work in your case?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> [1] https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11718481/
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for pointing it out Frank. Also, might want to avoid top
>>>> > posting in the future.
>>>> >
>>>> > Enric, Can you please try that other fix and see if that solves your
>>>> > issue?
>>>> 
>>>> I think Enric was clear that the driver does probe correctly
>>>> (meaning that he has the fix in his tree). It is everything else
>>>> that breaks, because none of the drivers on the platform are
>>>> equipped to defer their own probing.
>>>> 
>>>> I think we need to change this works right now, meaning that we 
>>>> can't
>>>> blindly change the behaviour of *built-in* drivers. I'll see if I 
>>>> can
>>>> come up with something quickly, but I'll otherwise take Enric patch.
>>> 
>>> Sounds fair Marc.
>>> 
>>> Btw, Enric, out of curiosity, can you try adding "fw_devlink=on" to
>>> your kernel command line to see if it helps? It basically ensures
>>> proper probe ordering without depending on the drivers. There are 
>>> some
>>> corner cases where it still can't work properly (too much to explain
>>> for a late night email), but if the platforms don't have those corner
>>> cases it'll work perfectly.
>>> 
>>> I'm fine with the revert if Marc isn't able to find a quick fix to 
>>> the
>>> drivers, but this might also fix your problem right away.
>> 
>> I'm afraid there is no quick fix if we want to preserve the current
>> behavior with built-in drivers, and not having "fw_devlink=on" by
>> default makes it irrelevant for most people.
>> 
>> fw_devlink also prevents my test platforms from booting (my rk3399
>> doesn't find its PCI devices with it), while the same kernel boots
>> just fine without it. It could well be that the corner case is
>> likely to be more prevalent than you seem to expect.
>> 
>> I will probably end-up end-up queuing reverts for both mtk-sysirq,
>> mtk-cirq, and qcom-pdc (the first two can't be built as module with
>> mainline anyway, and I seem to remember that the latter caused some
>> controversy as well).
>> 
>> As an experiment, I have pushed out a branch[1] that implements
>> a "hybrid" probe, retaining the previous early probe mechanism when
>> the driver is built-in, and letting things rip when built as a
>> module (if you do that, you hopefully know what you are doing).
>> I'd welcome some testing on affected platforms (I don't have
>> anything I can run mainline on that'd be affected).
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately, my Kukui (MT8183) board doesn't boot at all with those 
> patches. I
> only did a quick test and I didn't dig further, please let me know if 
> you want I
> debug more the issue. IMHO, right now, the revert seems to be the 
> better
> solution for this cycle.

It'd be good if you could help with that, but I will definitely apply
the revert (below for the revert list). Any change is too invasive to
be added to this cycle.

920ecb8c35cb irqchip/mtk-cirq: Convert to a platform driver
f97dbf48ca43 irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver
5be57099d445 irqchip/qcom-pdc: Switch to using IRQCHIP_PLATFORM_DRIVER 
helper macros
95bf9305d2e3 irqchip/qcom-pdc: Allow QCOM_PDC to be loadable as a 
permanent module

Thanks,

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19 16:19 [PATCH] Revert "irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver" Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-08-19 16:19 ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-08-19 16:19 ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
     [not found] ` <C9E59107-CE83-4554-9447-5DE5BEE09A3B@fw-web.de>
2020-08-19 18:51   ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-19 18:51     ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-19 18:51     ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-20  7:56     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-20  7:56       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-20  7:56       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-20  8:07       ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-20  8:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-20  8:07         ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-20 14:53         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-20 14:53           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-20 14:53           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-20 19:39           ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-20 19:39             ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-20 19:39             ` Saravana Kannan
2020-08-21  9:20           ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-08-21  9:20             ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-08-21  9:20             ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-08-21 10:17             ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2020-08-21 10:17               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-21 10:17               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-21 14:03               ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-21 14:03                 ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-21 14:03                 ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-25 23:40               ` [tip: irq/urgent] irqchip: Revert modular support for drivers using IRQCHIP_PLATFORM_DRIVER helperse tip-bot2 for Marc Zyngier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-17 14:57 [PATCH] Revert "irqchip/mtk-sysirq: Convert to a platform driver" Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-17 14:57 ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-17 14:57 ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-17 15:04 ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2020-08-17 15:04   ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2020-08-17 15:04   ` Enric Balletbo Serra
2020-08-21 14:07   ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-21 14:07     ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-21 14:07     ` Frank Wunderlich
2020-08-17 15:27 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-17 15:27   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-08-17 15:27   ` Marc Zyngier

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