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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: linuxram@us.ibm.com, jamie@shareable.org,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix race in mark_mounts_for_expiry()
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:51:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9498.1116417099@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DYMVf-0000hD-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>


Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:

> Do you think my original fix is wrong, or is this just cosmetics?

What you're doing is tricky. It's asking for a race. Admittedly, it may not
occur in the particular situation you're looking at, but can you always
guarantee that? Remember, it may be a race against some piece of code that's
not yet written, by an author who doesn't realise what _you_ are doing here
because their changeset doesn't intersect with yours.

Remember: you have, in effect, made the usage count on that structure
non-atomic.

I do something like that in rwsems and it's something I have to be very
careful about. The main reason I can get away with it is that the actual
implementation of rwsems is small and is located in a very restrictes set of
places and it's not intermingled with other stuff.

David

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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: linuxram@us.ibm.com, jamie@shareable.org,
	viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk, akpm@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fix race in mark_mounts_for_expiry()
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:51:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9498.1116417099@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1DYMVf-0000hD-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>


Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:

> Do you think my original fix is wrong, or is this just cosmetics?

What you're doing is tricky. It's asking for a race. Admittedly, it may not
occur in the particular situation you're looking at, but can you always
guarantee that? Remember, it may be a race against some piece of code that's
not yet written, by an author who doesn't realise what _you_ are doing here
because their changeset doesn't intersect with yours.

Remember: you have, in effect, made the usage count on that structure
non-atomic.

I do something like that in rwsems and it's something I have to be very
careful about. The main reason I can get away with it is that the actual
implementation of rwsems is small and is located in a very restrictes set of
places and it's not intermingled with other stuff.

David

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-18 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-13 10:44 [PATCH] namespace.c: fix bind mount from foreign namespace Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 16:49 ` Ram
2005-05-13 17:06 ` Al Viro
2005-05-13 17:17   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 17:25     ` Al Viro
2005-05-13 17:34       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-13 17:29     ` Ram
2005-05-13 18:40       ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]         ` <1116012287.6248.410.camel@localhost>
     [not found]           ` <E1DWfqJ-0004eP-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
     [not found]             ` <1116013840.6248.429.camel@localhost>
2005-05-14  6:11               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 15:11                 ` Ram
2005-05-16  8:44                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16  8:59                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 11:26                     ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-16 13:23                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-16 11:14                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-17  3:50                     ` Ram
2005-05-16 20:15                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-17  1:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-17  5:34                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found]                             ` <1116360352.24560.85.camel@localhost>
     [not found]                               ` <E1DYI0m-0000K5-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>
     [not found]                                 ` <1116399887.24560.116.camel@localhost>
     [not found]                                   ` <1116400118.24560.119.camel@localhost>
2005-05-18  9:51                                     ` [PATCH] fix race in mark_mounts_for_expiry() Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 10:12                                       ` 2.6 jiffies linux
2005-05-18 10:24                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-05-18 10:28                                           ` linux
2005-05-18 10:32                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-05-18 10:42                                               ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-05-18 10:32                                         ` Con Kolivas
2005-05-18 10:32                                       ` [PATCH] fix race in mark_mounts_for_expiry() David Howells
2005-05-18 10:37                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 10:46                                           ` David Howells
2005-05-18 10:53                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 10:59                                               ` David Howells
2005-05-18 11:14                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 11:51                                                   ` David Howells [this message]
2005-05-18 11:51                                                     ` David Howells
2005-05-18 12:08                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 12:08                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 12:33                                                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 12:33                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 16:53                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 16:53                                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 18:47                                                           ` Ram
2005-05-18 18:47                                                             ` Ram
2005-05-18 19:19                                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 19:19                                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 20:35                                                               ` Ram
2005-05-18 20:35                                                                 ` Ram
2005-05-19 12:52                                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-19 12:52                                                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 11:07                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2005-05-18 11:32                                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 12:50                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-18 13:21                                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 17:34                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-18 19:05                                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-18 19:52                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2005-05-19 12:41                                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-05-17 18:48                         ` [PATCH] namespace.c: fix bind mount from foreign namespace Ram
2005-05-17  0:00                       ` Jamie Lokier

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