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From: "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
To: "Boris Brezillon" <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
Cc: "Philipp Stanner" <phasta@mailbox.org>,
	phasta@kernel.org, "David Airlie" <airlied@gmail.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>, "Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	"Joel Fernandes" <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/4] rust/drm: Add DRM Jobqueue
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2026 13:32:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGC4VCT5JRD8.32Y99ERIGUTSW@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260211131015.7bf38cf9@fedora>

On Wed Feb 11, 2026 at 1:10 PM CET, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Feb 2026 12:19:04 +0100
> "Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed Feb 11, 2026 at 12:07 PM CET, Boris Brezillon wrote:
>> > I try to avoid using concepts the language I rely on is not friendly
>> > with.  
>> 
>> It's not really a language limitation. For instance, you can implement lists the
>> exact same way as they can be implemented in C. It's more that a memory safe
>> list implementation is quite tricky in general.
>
> That's what I mean by trickier to use, they are because of rust safety.

Yeah, we agree on this. What I don't agree with is the "avoid using concepts"
part, because it came across in an unconditional way.

> And again, that's not a case for saying "nah, rust is not a good fit, it
> can't do easy-to-use-lists", but rather a good opportunity to think
> twice about the containers we want to use.

I think I never implied that you were saying anything along the lines of "rust
is not a good fit" in any way. No idea where this comes from. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-11 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03  8:13 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] rust: list: Add unsafe for container_of Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 15:25   ` Gary Guo
2026-02-04 10:30   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] rust: sync: Add dma_fence abstractions Philipp Stanner
2026-02-05  8:57   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-06 10:23     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-09  8:19       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-09 14:58         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10  8:16           ` Christian König
2026-02-10  8:38             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10  9:06               ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10  9:54                 ` Christian König
2026-02-10  9:15               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 10:15                 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 10:36                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-10 10:46                     ` Christian König
2026-02-10 11:40                       ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:28                         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11  9:57                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 10:08                           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 10:28                             ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:20                           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:00                             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 11:12                               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 14:38                                 ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:00                                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:05                                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:14                                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:16                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 17:27                                     ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-10 10:46                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:34                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 11:45                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:21                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:34                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 12:36                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:15                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:26                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:49                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:56                           ` Christian König
2026-02-10 14:00                             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 14:06                               ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:32                                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-10 15:50                                   ` Christian König
2026-02-10 15:07                             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 15:45                               ` Christian König
2026-02-11  8:16                                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:03                                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:09                                   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-17 14:22                                     ` Christian König
2026-02-17 14:28                                       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-17 14:44                                         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-03-13 23:20                                           ` Matthew Brost
2026-02-17 15:01                                         ` Christian König
2026-02-18  9:50                                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-18 10:48                                           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:49                   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 12:56                     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 13:26                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 13:51                       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10 14:11                         ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-10 14:50                           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11  8:16                             ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11  9:20                               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-10  9:26               ` Christian König
2026-02-05 10:16   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-05 13:16     ` Gary Guo
2026-02-06  9:32       ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 10:16         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-06 13:24           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:04         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-09  8:21           ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-06 11:23         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-05 12:35   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-09 11:30   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] rust/drm: Add DRM Jobqueue Philipp Stanner
2026-02-05 13:58   ` kernel test robot
2026-02-10 14:57   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 10:47     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:07       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19         ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 12:10           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:32             ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2026-02-11 12:51               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 11:19         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 11:59           ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:14             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:24               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 12:22           ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:44             ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 12:52               ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 13:53                 ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:28                   ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 12:45             ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 13:45             ` Gary Guo
2026-02-11 14:07               ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:17                 ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:20                   ` Philipp Stanner
2026-02-11 15:51                     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-02-11 15:53                     ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-11 15:54                     ` Danilo Krummrich
2026-02-11 15:33               ` Alice Ryhl
2026-02-03  8:14 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] samples: rust: Add jobqueue tester Philipp Stanner
2026-02-03 16:46 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add dma_fence abstractions and DRM Jobqueue Daniel Almeida

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