From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com>
Cc: dax@gurulabs.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:48:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17U9x9-0001Dc-00@hofmann> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020715160357.GD442@clusterfs.com>
Andreas Dilger <adilger@clusterfs.com> wrote:
> Amusingly, there IS directory hashing available for ext2 and ext3, and
> it is just as fast as reiserfs hashed directories. See:
> http://people.nl.linux.org/~phillips/htree/paper/htree.html
You learn something new every day. So, with that in mind - what has reiserfs got that ext2 doesn't?
- tail merging, giving much more efficient space usage for lots of small
files.
- B*Tree allocation offering ``a 1/3rd reduction in internal
fragmentation in return for slightly more complicated insertions and
deletion algorithms'' (from the htree paper).
- online resizing in the main kernel (ext2 needs a patch -
http://ext2resize.sourceforge.net/).
- Resizing does not require the use of `ext2prepare' run on the
filesystem while unmounted to resize over arbitrary boundaries.
- directory hashing in the main kernel
On the flipside, ext2 over reiserfs:
- support for attributes without a patch or 2.4.19-pre4+ kernel
- support for filesystem quotas without a patch
- there is a `dump' command (but it's useless, because it hangs when you
run it on mounted filesystems - come on, who REALLY unmounts their
filesystems for a nightly dump? You need a 3 way mirror to do it
while guaranteeing filesystem availability...)
I'd be very interested in seeing postmark results without the hierarchical directory structure (which an unpatched postfix doesn't support), with about 5000 mailboxes with and without the htree patch (or with the htree patch but without that directory indexed, if that is possible).
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Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-07-12 16:21 [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Dax Kelson
2002-07-12 17:05 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-12 17:26 ` kwijibo
2002-07-12 17:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-12 20:34 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-13 4:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-14 20:40 ` Dax Kelson
2002-07-15 8:26 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 12:02 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 13:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 13:40 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-15 15:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-15 16:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-15 16:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-15 17:48 ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2002-07-15 18:47 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15 19:26 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-16 8:18 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:22 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-07-16 12:49 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 15:11 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-07-16 15:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-16 15:39 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 19:45 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 20:04 ` Shawn
2002-07-16 20:11 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-16 20:22 ` Shawn
2002-07-16 20:27 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-17 11:45 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-17 19:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-18 9:29 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-19 8:29 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-19 16:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-19 20:01 ` Shawn
2002-07-19 20:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-15 21:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-17 18:41 ` bill davidsen
2002-07-17 19:47 ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks (whither dump?) Lew Wolfgang
2002-07-16 8:15 ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:27 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 12:43 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:53 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-16 19:38 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 19:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-16 20:11 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 21:06 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 21:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-16 21:38 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-17 11:47 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-18 14:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-18 15:09 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-16 22:19 ` Backups done right (was [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks) stoffel
2002-07-16 22:33 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-18 15:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-18 15:27 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-18 15:50 ` stoffel
2002-07-18 16:29 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-19 15:28 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-17 18:51 ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks bill davidsen
2002-07-18 9:32 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 12:09 ` Matti Aarnio
[not found] <20020712162306$aa7d@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20020712162306$aa7d@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
2002-07-15 15:22 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 17:31 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 18:33 ` Matthias Andree
[not found] ` <20020715173337$acad@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20020715173337$acad@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
2002-07-15 19:13 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 20:55 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 21:23 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 21:38 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 12:31 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 15:53 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 19:26 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 19:38 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-15 21:59 ` Ketil Froyn
2002-07-15 23:08 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-07-16 12:33 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 21:58 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 21:14 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 21:31 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 22:12 ` Richard A Nelson
2002-07-16 1:02 ` Lawrence Greenfield
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/200207160102.g6G12BiH022986@lin2.andrew.cmu.edu>
2002-07-16 1:43 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-16 1:56 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 12:47 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 21:09 ` James Antill
2002-07-16 12:35 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 7:07 ` Dax Kelson
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