From: "Patrick J. LoPresti" <patl@curl.com>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks
Date: 15 Jul 2002 17:31:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5gy9ccr84k.fsf@egghead.curl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1026767676.4751.499.camel@tiny>
Chris Mason <mason@suse.com> writes:
> Yes, most mtas do this for queue files, I'm not sure how many do it for
> the actual spool file.
Maybe the control files are small enough to fit in one disk block,
making the operations atomic in practice. Or something.
> mail server authors are more than welcome to recommend the best
> safety/performance combo for their product, and to ask the FS guys
> which combinations are safe.
Yeah, but it's a shame if those combinations require performance hits
like "synchronous directory updates" or, worse, "fsync() == sync()".
I really wish MTA authors would just support Linux's "fsync the
directory" approach. It is simple, reliable, and fast. Yes, it does
require Linux-specific support in the application, but that's what
application authors should expect when there is a gap in the
standards.
- Pat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-07-15 21:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20020712162306$aa7d@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20020712162306$aa7d@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
2002-07-15 15:22 ` [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 17:31 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 18:33 ` Matthias Andree
[not found] ` <20020715173337$acad@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20020715173337$acad@traf.lcs.mit.edu>
2002-07-15 19:13 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 20:55 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 21:23 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-15 21:38 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 12:31 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 15:53 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 19:26 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 19:38 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 23:22 ` close return value (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks) Zack Weinberg
2002-07-17 1:03 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-16 23:52 ` close return value David S. Miller
2002-07-17 1:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-17 0:20 ` David S. Miller
2002-07-17 1:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-17 1:05 ` David S. Miller
2002-07-17 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-17 11:51 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-17 17:23 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-20 8:00 ` Florian Weimer
2002-07-20 16:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-26 0:06 ` EFAULT vs. SIGSEGV [was Re: close return value] Pavel Machek
2002-07-26 14:01 ` (no subject) Alexis Deruelle
[not found] ` <mailman.1026868201.10433.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-07-18 0:01 ` close return value Pete Zaitcev
2002-07-18 0:10 ` Thunder from the hill
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/200207180001.g6I015f02681@devserv.devel.redhat.com>
2002-07-18 14:42 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-18 15:13 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 15:32 ` Sandy Harris
2002-07-18 23:47 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-07-19 16:12 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-19 16:24 ` Joseph Malicki
2002-07-19 18:48 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-19 19:25 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-19 19:30 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-07-19 19:45 ` Joseph Malicki
2002-07-19 19:55 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-07-20 18:25 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2002-07-20 23:06 ` Sandy Harris
2002-07-20 14:42 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-18 20:09 ` Hildo.Biersma
2002-07-18 23:55 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-07-19 11:31 ` Hildo.Biersma
2002-07-19 16:16 ` Pete Zaitcev
2002-07-23 22:19 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-17 0:10 ` close return value (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks) Zack Weinberg
2002-07-17 1:45 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-17 18:24 ` Zack Weinberg
2002-07-22 16:42 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-07-17 8:00 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-07-17 15:49 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-17 2:22 ` Elladan
2002-07-17 2:54 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-17 3:00 ` Elladan
2002-07-17 3:10 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-17 3:31 ` Elladan
2002-07-17 4:17 ` Stevie O
2002-07-17 4:38 ` Elladan
2002-07-17 14:39 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-17 16:49 ` Elladan
2002-07-17 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-17 22:07 ` Elladan
2002-07-18 9:48 ` Ketil Froyn
2002-07-17 17:17 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-17 17:51 ` Richard Gooch
2002-07-17 7:34 ` close return value (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Ext3 vs Reiserfs benchmarks Kai Henningsen
2002-07-15 21:59 ` Ketil Froyn
2002-07-15 23:08 ` Matti Aarnio
2002-07-16 12:33 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 21:58 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 21:14 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 21:31 ` Patrick J. LoPresti [this message]
2002-07-15 22:12 ` Richard A Nelson
2002-07-16 1:02 ` Lawrence Greenfield
[not found] ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/200207160102.g6G12BiH022986@lin2.andrew.cmu.edu>
2002-07-16 1:43 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2002-07-16 1:56 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 12:47 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 21:09 ` James Antill
2002-07-16 12:35 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 7:07 ` Dax Kelson
2002-07-12 16:21 Dax Kelson
2002-07-12 17:05 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-12 17:26 ` kwijibo
2002-07-12 17:36 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-12 20:34 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-13 4:44 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-14 20:40 ` Dax Kelson
2002-07-15 8:26 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 12:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 12:02 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 13:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-15 13:40 ` Chris Mason
2002-07-15 19:40 ` Andrew Morton
2002-07-15 15:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-15 16:03 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-15 16:12 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-07-15 17:48 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-15 18:47 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-15 19:26 ` Sam Vilain
2002-07-16 8:18 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:22 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-07-16 12:49 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 15:11 ` Gerhard Mack
2002-07-16 15:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-07-16 15:39 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 19:45 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 20:04 ` Shawn
2002-07-16 20:11 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-16 20:22 ` Shawn
2002-07-16 20:27 ` Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer
2002-07-17 11:45 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-17 19:02 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-18 9:29 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-19 8:29 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-19 16:39 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-19 20:01 ` Shawn
2002-07-19 20:47 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-15 21:14 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-17 18:41 ` bill davidsen
2002-07-16 8:15 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:27 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 12:43 ` Stelian Pop
2002-07-16 12:53 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 13:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-07-16 19:38 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 19:49 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-16 20:11 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-16 21:06 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-16 21:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-07-16 21:38 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-17 11:47 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-18 14:50 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-07-18 15:09 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-17 18:51 ` bill davidsen
2002-07-18 9:32 ` Matthias Andree
2002-07-15 12:09 ` Matti Aarnio
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