From: Guennadi Liakhovetski <lg@denx.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/6] Support NAND in fw_printenv/fw_setenv
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 01:33:50 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809020104080.8933@axis700.grange> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080901224153.96351242FF@gemini.denx.de>
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.0809011028550.4686@axis700.grange> you wrote:
> >
> > 1. do not use the union
> >
> > well, I would still prefer to use it and I hope I will be allowed to do so
> > in a separate NAND-tool. I agree, it would be better to use the definition
> > from the environment.h directly. But:
>
> There is no such thing as a separate NAND tool - this mkes zero sense.
> There shall be one tool that supports both NOR and NAND (and soon
> probably DataFlash and OneNAND and ... ).
>
> > 2. do not use single.crc in redundant case
> >
> > This is done only at two places, yes, I realise, this is not very clean,
>
> Indeed. But the problem goes away automatically whenyou get rid of the
> union.
I'll try to explain again _why_ i introduced the union and why I still
don't see a good replacement for it.
As you know, in the tool we have to decide at run-time whether we are
dealing with a single environment copy or with current / redundant
configuration. With NAND support when _writing_ environment to NAND you
have to write page at a time, which means, at this point we _must_ have
the image in a contiguous buffer in RAM. And the image can have one of the
two possible formats - with and without the "flags" byte. In principle I
see only three possibilities to implement this:
(a) work with arbitrary non-contiguous data in RAM as before, and copy it
into an additional buffer just before writing to NAND
advantage: can keep the current struct
disadvantage: extra malloc
(b) use a plain data buffer, and, if needed, use the first byte in it for
flags
advantage: no extra malloc, no (explicit) union
disadvantage: confusing, have to work with byte-offsets instead of struct
/ union members, and, in fact, this is the same as using a union, just
implicit, calculating byte-offsets manually, instead of letting the
compiler do it
(c) use a union
advantage: clean access to all environment fields without the use of
byte-offsets
disadvantage: slightly more complex code
Please, just tell me which of these three you would prefer, or maybe there
is a fourth possibility I am still overseeing.
You also asked about the extra "char *data" pointer in the struct
environment, whether there is no danger that a different compiler version
will break it. This pointer uses no magic - it is just a plain simple
pointer, I use it to point to data inside the union to avoid having to
check every time whether we have the redundant environment or not. So, I
check it only once at initialisation time, set this pointer, and then just
use it to access the data buffer inside the image (union). No magic here.
> > 4. fix MTD_OLD
> >
> > Would we still need this with NAND-only tool?
>
> Yes of course we need it. I will not accept such thing as a NAND-only tool.
Ok. But NAND-support is not needed with MTD_OLD? So, if it cannot be
compiled with older kernels, we may just disable it per ifdef?
> > 5. clarify back-up mode
> >
> > This is actually a comment improvement, can do.
>
> Actually the whole implementation needs to be explained.
Ok.
> > Shall I keep support for NOR in the separate NAND version or completely
> > remove it? The "type == MTD_NORFLASH" code is quite small, so, removing it
>
> I don't understand why you come up with such an idea. There shall be
> just the one tool we have now, just with extended functionality. I
> just wanted to get rid of the futile attempts to make the one huge
> change looking like a series af several big but incremental changes.
How would you like to make such a replacement then? If I produce a patch
just from the current state to the final state, I think, it will look
worse than the broken-down patch-series. Otherwise we could remove the
current file and add a new one in two patches? This wouldn't be very good
either - you'd have to change Makefiles etc. to keep the tree compilable.
Thanks
Guennadi
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Guennadi Liakhovetski, Ph.D.
DENX Software Engineering GmbH, MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
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Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-27 15:52 [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/6] Support NAND in fw_printenv/fw_setenv Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-27 15:52 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 1/6] Convert fw_env.c to use a single environment image union Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 14:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 15:57 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-27 15:52 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 2/6] Separate flash read and write operations Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 14:58 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 16:04 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 19:45 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 19:56 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-27 15:52 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 3/6] "return" is not a function Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 14:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 16:10 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 19:17 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-27 15:52 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 4/6] Unify active vs. redundant environment variable naming Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 15:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 16:18 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 19:27 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 19:44 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-27 15:52 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 5/6] Support environment anywhere within erase area Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 19:39 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 19:53 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-27 15:52 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/6] Support environment in NAND Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-29 9:29 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/6 v2] " Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 18:57 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 6/6] " Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 21:53 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 20:21 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 0/6] Support NAND in fw_printenv/fw_setenv Wolfgang Denk
2008-08-31 20:37 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-08-31 20:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-09-01 9:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-09-01 9:31 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2008-09-01 22:42 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-09-01 22:41 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-09-01 23:33 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski [this message]
2008-09-02 0:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-09-02 16:00 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
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