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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"jiri@nvidia.com" <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	"Kaliszczuk, Leszek" <leszek.kaliszczuk@intel.com>,
	"Kitszel, Przemyslaw" <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	"edumazet@google.com" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Ismail, Mustafa" <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>,
	"intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org"
	<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 19:31:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3fBYXclZbNsiE1J@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB002998FAA385731E21E20868E9099@MWHPR11MB0029.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 02:23:50PM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:36:18PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:38:48 +0200 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > I don't think that management of PCI specific parameters in devlink
> > > > is right idea. PCI has his own subsystem with rules and assumptions,
> > > > netdev shouldn't mangle them.
> > >
> > > Not netdev, devlink, which covers netdev, RDMA and others.
> > 
> > devlink is located in net/*, it is netdev.
> > Regarding RDMA, it is not fully accurate. We use devlink to convey information to
> > FW through pci device located in netdev. Some of such parameters are RDMA
> > related. However, we don't configure RDMA properties through devlink, there is a
> > special tool for that (rdmatool).
> 
> rdmatool though is usable only once the rdma driver probe() completes and the ib_device is registered.
> And cannot be used for any configurations at driver init time.

Like I said, we use devlink to configure FW and "core" device to which
ib_device is connected. We don't configure RDMA specific properties, but
only device specific ones.

> 
> Don't we already have PCI specific parameters managed through devlink today?
> 
> https://docs.kernel.org/networking/devlink/devlink-params.html
> enable_sriov
> ignore_ari
> msix_vec_per_pf_max
> msix_vec_per_pf_min
> 
> How are these in a different bracket from what Michal is trying to do? Or were these ones a bad idea in hindsight?

Yes as it doesn't belong to net/* and it exists there just because of
one reason: ability to write to FW of specific device.

At least for ARI, I don't see that bnxt driver masked ARI Extended Capability
and informed PCI subsystem about it, so PCI core will recreate device.

Thanks
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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Michal Swiatkowski <michal.swiatkowski@linux.intel.com>,
	"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"edumazet@google.com" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org"
	<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	"jiri@nvidia.com" <jiri@nvidia.com>,
	"Nguyen, Anthony L" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	"Lobakin, Alexandr" <alexandr.lobakin@intel.com>,
	"Drewek, Wojciech" <wojciech.drewek@intel.com>,
	"Czapnik, Lukasz" <lukasz.czapnik@intel.com>,
	"Brandeburg, Jesse" <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	"Ismail, Mustafa" <mustafa.ismail@intel.com>,
	"Kitszel, Przemyslaw" <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	"Raczynski, Piotr" <piotr.raczynski@intel.com>,
	"Keller, Jacob E" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	"Ertman, David M" <david.m.ertman@intel.com>,
	"Kaliszczuk, Leszek" <leszek.kaliszczuk@intel.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2022 19:31:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y3fBYXclZbNsiE1J@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR11MB002998FAA385731E21E20868E9099@MWHPR11MB0029.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 02:23:50PM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:36:18PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 19:38:48 +0200 Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > I don't think that management of PCI specific parameters in devlink
> > > > is right idea. PCI has his own subsystem with rules and assumptions,
> > > > netdev shouldn't mangle them.
> > >
> > > Not netdev, devlink, which covers netdev, RDMA and others.
> > 
> > devlink is located in net/*, it is netdev.
> > Regarding RDMA, it is not fully accurate. We use devlink to convey information to
> > FW through pci device located in netdev. Some of such parameters are RDMA
> > related. However, we don't configure RDMA properties through devlink, there is a
> > special tool for that (rdmatool).
> 
> rdmatool though is usable only once the rdma driver probe() completes and the ib_device is registered.
> And cannot be used for any configurations at driver init time.

Like I said, we use devlink to configure FW and "core" device to which
ib_device is connected. We don't configure RDMA specific properties, but
only device specific ones.

> 
> Don't we already have PCI specific parameters managed through devlink today?
> 
> https://docs.kernel.org/networking/devlink/devlink-params.html
> enable_sriov
> ignore_ari
> msix_vec_per_pf_max
> msix_vec_per_pf_min
> 
> How are these in a different bracket from what Michal is trying to do? Or were these ones a bad idea in hindsight?

Yes as it doesn't belong to net/* and it exists there just because of
one reason: ability to write to FW of specific device.

At least for ARI, I don't see that bnxt driver masked ARI Extended Capability
and informed PCI subsystem about it, so PCI core will recreate device.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-18 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-14 12:57 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 01/13] ice: move RDMA init to ice_idc.c Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 02/13] ice: alloc id for RDMA using xa_array Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 03/13] ice: cleanup in VSI config/deconfig code Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 04/13] ice: split ice_vsi_setup into smaller functions Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  5:08   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  5:08     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  6:49     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  6:49       ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 05/13] ice: stop hard coding the ICE_VSI_CTRL location Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 06/13] ice: split probe into smaller functions Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 07/13] ice: sync netdev filters after clearing VSI Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 08/13] ice: move VSI delete outside deconfig Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 09/13] ice: update VSI instead of init in some case Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 10/13] ice: implement devlink reinit action Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 11/13] ice: introduce eswitch capable flag Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 12/13] ice, irdma: prepare reservation of MSI-X to reload Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  5:08   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  5:08     ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-15  6:49     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  6:49       ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 13/13] devlink, ice: add MSIX vectors as devlink resource Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 12:57   ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 15:28   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2022-11-14 15:28     ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-14 16:03     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Piotr Raczynski
2022-11-14 16:03       ` Piotr Raczynski
2022-11-15  6:56       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  6:56         ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 12:08       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2022-11-15 12:08         ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-14 13:23 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 00/13] resource management using devlink reload Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-14 13:23   ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-14 15:31   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-14 15:31     ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-14 16:58     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Keller, Jacob E
2022-11-14 16:58       ` Keller, Jacob E
2022-11-14 17:09       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-14 17:09         ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  7:00         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  7:00           ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-14 17:07     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-14 17:07       ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  7:12       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  7:12         ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  8:11         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  8:11           ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  9:04           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  9:04             ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15  9:32             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15  9:32               ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 10:16               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 10:16                 ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 12:12                 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 12:12                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 14:02                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 14:02                     ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-15 17:57                     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-15 17:57                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16  1:59                       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-16  1:59                         ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-16  6:04                         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16  6:04                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16 12:04                           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-16 12:04                             ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-16 17:59                             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-16 17:59                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 11:10                               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-17 11:10                                 ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-17 11:45                                 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 11:45                                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 13:39                                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-17 13:39                                     ` Michal Swiatkowski
2022-11-17 17:38                                     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-17 17:38                                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-18  3:36                                       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-18  3:36                                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-18  6:20                                         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-18  6:20                                           ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-18 14:23                                           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Saleem, Shiraz
2022-11-18 14:23                                             ` Saleem, Shiraz
2022-11-18 17:31                                             ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2022-11-18 17:31                                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-11-20 22:24                                               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Samudrala, Sridhar
2022-11-20 22:24                                                 ` Samudrala, Sridhar

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