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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5XbrWTicuTxPLwN@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221210224154.733cd5qnrkpexq22@pengutronix.de>

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:47:54PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 04:21:37PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

...

> > > > I'm wondering why we didn't see a compiler warning about mistyped function
> > > > prototypes in some drivers.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand where you expected a warning. Care to elaborate?
> > 
> > intel-lpss.c has the prototype that returns an int. IIRC it was like this
> 
> Do you mean drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.c? That one doesn't implement a PWM?!

Nope, I meant pwm-lpss.c.

> And drivers/pwm/pwm-lpss.c is adapted by this series.

That's what I didn't see how.

> One of us is confused ...

Yes, because when I have checked the branch based on Linux Next I already saw
that get_state() returns a code and I wasn't aware that the series is already
there.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5XbrWTicuTxPLwN@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221210224154.733cd5qnrkpexq22@pengutronix.de>

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:47:54PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 04:21:37PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

...

> > > > I'm wondering why we didn't see a compiler warning about mistyped function
> > > > prototypes in some drivers.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand where you expected a warning. Care to elaborate?
> > 
> > intel-lpss.c has the prototype that returns an int. IIRC it was like this
> 
> Do you mean drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.c? That one doesn't implement a PWM?!

Nope, I meant pwm-lpss.c.

> And drivers/pwm/pwm-lpss.c is adapted by this series.

That's what I didn't see how.

> One of us is confused ...

Yes, because when I have checked the branch based on Linux Next I already saw
that get_state() returns a code and I wasn't aware that the series is already
there.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5XbrWTicuTxPLwN@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221210224154.733cd5qnrkpexq22@pengutronix.de>

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:47:54PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 04:21:37PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

...

> > > > I'm wondering why we didn't see a compiler warning about mistyped function
> > > > prototypes in some drivers.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand where you expected a warning. Care to elaborate?
> > 
> > intel-lpss.c has the prototype that returns an int. IIRC it was like this
> 
> Do you mean drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.c? That one doesn't implement a PWM?!

Nope, I meant pwm-lpss.c.

> And drivers/pwm/pwm-lpss.c is adapted by this series.

That's what I didn't see how.

> One of us is confused ...

Yes, because when I have checked the branch based on Linux Next I already saw
that get_state() returns a code and I wasn't aware that the series is already
there.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5XbrWTicuTxPLwN@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221210224154.733cd5qnrkpexq22@pengutronix.de>

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:47:54PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 04:21:37PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

...

> > > > I'm wondering why we didn't see a compiler warning about mistyped function
> > > > prototypes in some drivers.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand where you expected a warning. Care to elaborate?
> > 
> > intel-lpss.c has the prototype that returns an int. IIRC it was like this
> 
> Do you mean drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.c? That one doesn't implement a PWM?!

Nope, I meant pwm-lpss.c.

> And drivers/pwm/pwm-lpss.c is adapted by this series.

That's what I didn't see how.

> One of us is confused ...

Yes, because when I have checked the branch based on Linux Next I already saw
that get_state() returns a code and I wasn't aware that the series is already
there.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5XbrWTicuTxPLwN@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221210224154.733cd5qnrkpexq22@pengutronix.de>

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:47:54PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 04:21:37PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

...

> > > > I'm wondering why we didn't see a compiler warning about mistyped function
> > > > prototypes in some drivers.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand where you expected a warning. Care to elaborate?
> > 
> > intel-lpss.c has the prototype that returns an int. IIRC it was like this
> 
> Do you mean drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.c? That one doesn't implement a PWM?!

Nope, I meant pwm-lpss.c.

> And drivers/pwm/pwm-lpss.c is adapted by this series.

That's what I didn't see how.

> One of us is confused ...

Yes, because when I have checked the branch based on Linux Next I already saw
that get_state() returns a code and I wasn't aware that the series is already
there.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@intel.com>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, chrome-platform@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2022 15:31:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5XbrWTicuTxPLwN@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221210224154.733cd5qnrkpexq22@pengutronix.de>

On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 11:41:54PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:57:16PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 10:18:33AM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > > On Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 11:47:54PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 04:21:37PM +0100, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:

...

> > > > I'm wondering why we didn't see a compiler warning about mistyped function
> > > > prototypes in some drivers.
> > > 
> > > I don't understand where you expected a warning. Care to elaborate?
> > 
> > intel-lpss.c has the prototype that returns an int. IIRC it was like this
> 
> Do you mean drivers/mfd/intel-lpss.c? That one doesn't implement a PWM?!

Nope, I meant pwm-lpss.c.

> And drivers/pwm/pwm-lpss.c is adapted by this series.

That's what I didn't see how.

> One of us is confused ...

Yes, because when I have checked the branch based on Linux Next I already saw
that get_state() returns a code and I wasn't aware that the series is already
there.

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-11 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-30 15:21 [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] pwm: Make .get_state() callback return an error code Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 18:36   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 18:36     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 18:36     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 18:36     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 18:36     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-12-01  1:17   ` Baolin Wang
2022-12-01  1:17     ` Baolin Wang
2022-12-01  1:17     ` Baolin Wang
2022-12-01  1:17     ` Baolin Wang
2022-12-01  1:17     ` Baolin Wang
2022-12-01  2:41   ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2022-12-01  2:41     ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2022-12-01  2:41     ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2022-12-01  2:41     ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2022-12-01  2:41     ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2022-12-01  8:03   ` Neil Armstrong
2022-12-01  8:03     ` Neil Armstrong
2022-12-01  8:03     ` Neil Armstrong
2022-12-01  8:03     ` Neil Armstrong
2022-12-01  8:03     ` Neil Armstrong
2022-12-01  9:30   ` nobuhiro1.iwamatsu
2022-12-01  9:30     ` nobuhiro1.iwamatsu
2022-12-01  9:30     ` nobuhiro1.iwamatsu
2022-12-01  9:30     ` nobuhiro1.iwamatsu
2022-12-01  9:30     ` nobuhiro1.iwamatsu
2022-12-01 10:22   ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 10:22     ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 10:22     ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 10:22     ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 10:22     ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 13:16     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:16       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:16       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:16       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:16       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 14:17       ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 14:17         ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 14:17         ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 14:17         ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 14:17         ` Andre Przywara
2022-12-01 10:43   ` Dave Stevenson
2022-12-01 10:43     ` Dave Stevenson
2022-12-01 10:43     ` Dave Stevenson
2022-12-01 10:43     ` Dave Stevenson
2022-12-01 10:43     ` Dave Stevenson
2022-12-01 15:37   ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-01 15:37     ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-01 15:37     ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-01 15:37     ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-01 15:37     ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-05 20:50   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-12-05 20:50     ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-12-05 20:50     ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-12-05 20:50     ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-12-05 20:50     ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-12-05 22:30   ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-05 22:30     ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-05 22:30     ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-05 22:30     ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-05 22:30     ` Pavel Machek
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] pwm/tracing: Also record trace events for failed API calls Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 20:15   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-12-01  7:09     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi86: Propagate errors in .get_state() to the caller Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 15:37   ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-01 15:37     ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-04 21:09   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-04 21:09     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-04 21:31     ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-12-04 21:31       ` Laurent Pinchart
2022-12-05 15:25     ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-05 15:25       ` Doug Anderson
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] leds: qcom-lpg: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-04 21:04   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-04 22:28     ` Pavel Machek
2022-12-05 22:31   ` Pavel Machek
2023-01-04 16:56     ` Lee Jones
2023-01-05 13:54       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2023-01-05 16:29         ` Lee Jones
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] pwm: crc: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] pwm: cros-ec: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01  2:41   ` Tzung-Bi Shih
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] pwm: imx27: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] pwm: mtk-disp: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:11   ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-12-01 13:11     ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] pwm: rockchip: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 15:21   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-11-30 18:37   ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 18:37     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 18:37     ` Heiko Stübner
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] pwm: sprd: " Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01  1:18   ` Baolin Wang
2022-11-30 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] pwm: Handle .get_state() failures Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 11:11 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] pwm: Allow .get_state to fail Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 11:11   ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 11:11   ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 11:11   ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 11:11   ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 13:19   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:19     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:19     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:19     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:19     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-01 13:28     ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 13:28       ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 13:28       ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 13:28       ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-01 13:28       ` Conor Dooley
2022-12-09 21:47 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-09 21:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-09 21:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-09 21:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-09 21:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-09 21:47   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10  9:18   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10  9:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10  9:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10  9:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10  9:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10  9:18     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10 20:57     ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10 20:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10 20:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10 20:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10 20:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10 20:57       ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-10 22:41       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10 22:41         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10 22:41         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10 22:41         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10 22:41         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-10 22:41         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2022-12-11 13:31         ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2022-12-11 13:31           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-11 13:31           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-11 13:31           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-11 13:31           ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-12-11 13:31           ` Andy Shevchenko

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