From: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "Andreas Grünbacher" <andreas.gruenbacher@gmail.com>,
"Dave Chinner" <david@fromorbit.com>,
"Andreas Gruenbacher" <agruenba@redhat.com>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Damien Le Moal" <damien.lemoal@wdc.com>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, cluster-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v6 08/10] iomap/xfs: Eliminate the iomap_valid handler
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:04:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8hCq+fIWgHfUufe@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8eeAmm1Vutq3Fc9@infradead.org>
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:21:38PM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 09:29:58AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > I don't have any objections to pulling everything except patches 8 and
> > 10 for testing this week.
>
> That would be great. I now have a series to return the ERR_PTR
> from __filemap_get_folio which will cause a minor conflict, but
> I think that's easy enough for Linux to handle.
Ok, done.
> >
> > 1. Does zonefs need to revalidate mappings? The mappings are 1:1 so I
> > don't think it does, but OTOH zone pointer management might complicate
> > that.
>
> Adding Damien.
>
> > 2. How about porting the writeback iomap validation to use this
> > mechanism? (I suspect Dave might already be working on this...)
>
> What is "this mechanism"? Do you mean the here removed ->iomap_valid
> ? writeback calls into ->map_blocks for every block while under the
> folio lock, so the validation can (and for XFS currently is) done
> in that. Moving it out into a separate method with extra indirect
> functiona call overhead and interactions between the methods seems
> like a retrograde step to me.
Sorry, I should've been more specific -- can xfs writeback use the
validity cookie in struct iomap and thereby get rid of struct
xfs_writepage_ctx entirely?
> > 2. Do we need to revalidate mappings for directio writes? I think the
> > answer is no (for xfs) because the ->iomap_begin call will allocate
> > whatever blocks are needed and truncate/punch/reflink block on the
> > iolock while the directio writes are pending, so you'll never end up
> > with a stale mapping.
>
> Yes.
Er... yes as in "Yes, we *do* need to revalidate directio writes", or
"Yes, your reasoning is correct"?
--D
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Darrick J. Wong <djwong@kernel.org>
To: cluster-devel.redhat.com
Subject: [Cluster-devel] [RFC v6 08/10] iomap/xfs: Eliminate the iomap_valid handler
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:04:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y8hCq+fIWgHfUufe@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y8eeAmm1Vutq3Fc9@infradead.org>
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 11:21:38PM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 09:29:58AM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > I don't have any objections to pulling everything except patches 8 and
> > 10 for testing this week.
>
> That would be great. I now have a series to return the ERR_PTR
> from __filemap_get_folio which will cause a minor conflict, but
> I think that's easy enough for Linux to handle.
Ok, done.
> >
> > 1. Does zonefs need to revalidate mappings? The mappings are 1:1 so I
> > don't think it does, but OTOH zone pointer management might complicate
> > that.
>
> Adding Damien.
>
> > 2. How about porting the writeback iomap validation to use this
> > mechanism? (I suspect Dave might already be working on this...)
>
> What is "this mechanism"? Do you mean the here removed ->iomap_valid
> ? writeback calls into ->map_blocks for every block while under the
> folio lock, so the validation can (and for XFS currently is) done
> in that. Moving it out into a separate method with extra indirect
> functiona call overhead and interactions between the methods seems
> like a retrograde step to me.
Sorry, I should've been more specific -- can xfs writeback use the
validity cookie in struct iomap and thereby get rid of struct
xfs_writepage_ctx entirely?
> > 2. Do we need to revalidate mappings for directio writes? I think the
> > answer is no (for xfs) because the ->iomap_begin call will allocate
> > whatever blocks are needed and truncate/punch/reflink block on the
> > iolock while the directio writes are pending, so you'll never end up
> > with a stale mapping.
>
> Yes.
Er... yes as in "Yes, we *do* need to revalidate directio writes", or
"Yes, your reasoning is correct"?
--D
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-18 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-08 19:40 [RFC v6 00/10] Turn iomap_page_ops into iomap_folio_ops Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 01/10] iomap: Add __iomap_put_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 02/10] iomap/gfs2: Unlock and put folio in page_done handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 03/10] iomap: Rename page_done handler to put_folio Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 04/10] iomap: Add iomap_get_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 21:33 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-08 21:33 ` [Cluster-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 12:46 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-09 12:46 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-10 8:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 8:46 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 9:07 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-10 9:07 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-10 13:34 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-10 13:34 ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-10 15:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 15:24 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-11 19:36 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-11 19:36 ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-11 20:52 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-11 20:52 ` [Cluster-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-01-12 8:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-12 8:41 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-15 17:01 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-15 17:01 ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-15 17:06 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-15 17:06 ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-16 5:46 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 5:46 ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 7:34 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-16 7:34 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-16 13:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 13:18 ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-16 16:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-16 16:02 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 05/10] iomap/gfs2: Get page in page_prepare handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-31 19:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-31 19:37 ` [Cluster-devel] " Matthew Wilcox
2023-01-31 21:33 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-31 21:33 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 06/10] iomap: Add __iomap_get_folio helper Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-10 8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 8:48 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 07/10] iomap: Rename page_prepare handler to get_folio Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 08/10] iomap/xfs: Eliminate the iomap_valid handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 21:59 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-08 21:59 ` [Cluster-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 18:45 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-09 18:45 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-09 22:54 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-09 22:54 ` [Cluster-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-01-10 1:09 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-10 1:09 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-15 17:29 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-15 17:29 ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-18 7:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-18 7:21 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-18 9:11 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-18 9:11 ` [Cluster-devel] " Damien Le Moal
2023-01-18 19:04 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2023-01-18 19:04 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-01-18 19:57 ` Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-18 19:57 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Grünbacher
2023-01-18 21:42 ` Dave Chinner
2023-01-18 21:42 ` [Cluster-devel] " Dave Chinner
2023-01-10 8:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 8:51 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 8:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-10 8:52 ` [Cluster-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 09/10] iomap: Rename page_ops to folio_ops Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [RFC v6 10/10] xfs: Make xfs_iomap_folio_ops static Andreas Gruenbacher
2023-01-08 19:40 ` [Cluster-devel] " Andreas Gruenbacher
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