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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, jon.grimm@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vasant.hegde@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] iommu/amd: Set translation valid bit only when IO page tables are in used
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 15:07:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yn5YIfzmerwAM30M@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220509074815.11881-1-suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>

On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 02:48:15AM -0500, Suravee Suthikulpanit wrote:
> On AMD system with SNP enabled, IOMMU hardware checks the host translation
> valid (TV) and guest translation valid (GV) bits in the device
> table entry (DTE) before accessing the corresponded page tables.
> 
> However, current IOMMU driver sets the TV bit for all devices
> regardless of whether the host page table is in used.
> This results in ILLEGAL_DEV_TABLE_ENTRY event for devices, which
> do not the host page table root pointer set up.

Hmm, this sound weird. In the early AMD IOMMUs it was recommended to set
TV=1 and V=1 and the rest to 0 to block all DMA from a device.

I wonder how this triggers ILLEGAL_DEV_TABLE_ENTRY errors now. It is
(was?) legal to set V=1 TV=1, mode=0 and leave the page-table empty.
When then IW=0 and IR=0, DMA is blocked. From what I remember this is a
valid setting in a DTE. Do you have an example DTE which triggers this
error message?

Regards,

	Joerg

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From: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
To: Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	vasant.hegde@amd.com, jon.grimm@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] iommu/amd: Set translation valid bit only when IO page tables are in used
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 15:07:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yn5YIfzmerwAM30M@8bytes.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220509074815.11881-1-suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>

On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 02:48:15AM -0500, Suravee Suthikulpanit wrote:
> On AMD system with SNP enabled, IOMMU hardware checks the host translation
> valid (TV) and guest translation valid (GV) bits in the device
> table entry (DTE) before accessing the corresponded page tables.
> 
> However, current IOMMU driver sets the TV bit for all devices
> regardless of whether the host page table is in used.
> This results in ILLEGAL_DEV_TABLE_ENTRY event for devices, which
> do not the host page table root pointer set up.

Hmm, this sound weird. In the early AMD IOMMUs it was recommended to set
TV=1 and V=1 and the rest to 0 to block all DMA from a device.

I wonder how this triggers ILLEGAL_DEV_TABLE_ENTRY errors now. It is
(was?) legal to set V=1 TV=1, mode=0 and leave the page-table empty.
When then IW=0 and IR=0, DMA is blocked. From what I remember this is a
valid setting in a DTE. Do you have an example DTE which triggers this
error message?

Regards,

	Joerg


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-13 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-09  7:48 [PATCH v2] iommu/amd: Set translation valid bit only when IO page tables are in used Suravee Suthikulpanit via iommu
2022-05-09  7:48 ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2022-05-13 13:07 ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2022-05-13 13:07   ` Joerg Roedel
2022-05-16 12:27   ` Suravee Suthikulpanit via iommu
2022-05-16 12:27     ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2022-05-20  8:09     ` Joerg Roedel
2022-05-20  8:09       ` Joerg Roedel
2022-05-20  8:54       ` Robin Murphy
2022-05-20  8:54         ` Robin Murphy
2022-05-20  8:58         ` Joerg Roedel
2022-05-20  8:58           ` Joerg Roedel
2022-05-20  9:18           ` Robin Murphy
2022-05-20  9:18             ` Robin Murphy
2022-05-26  3:29       ` Suravee Suthikulpanit via iommu
2022-05-26  3:29         ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2022-06-07  8:00         ` Joerg Roedel
2022-06-07  8:00           ` Joerg Roedel

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