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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	andrew.jones@linux.dev, will@kernel.org, shan.gavin@gmail.com,
	bgardon@google.com, dmatlack@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	zhenyzha@redhat.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] KVM: Add KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ORDERED capability and config option
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:22:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yy8EmMhF+2jcm3m6@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czblhv2a.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:26:53PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:51:39 +0100,
> Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 19:26:18 +0100,
> > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 03:28:34PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 22:48:19 +0100,
> > > > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 06:01:29PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > > > > In order to differenciate between architectures that require no extra
> > > > > > synchronisation when accessing the dirty ring and those who do,
> > > > > > add a new capability (KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ORDERED) that identify
> > > > > > the latter sort. TSO architectures can obviously advertise both, while
> > > > > > relaxed architectures most only advertise the ORDERED version.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Suggested-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h |  6 +++---
> > > > > >  include/uapi/linux/kvm.h       |  1 +
> > > > > >  virt/kvm/Kconfig               | 14 ++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  virt/kvm/Makefile.kvm          |  2 +-
> > > > > >  virt/kvm/kvm_main.c            | 11 +++++++++--
> > > > > >  5 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h b/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h
> > > > > > index 906f899813dc..7a0c90ae9a3f 100644
> > > > > > --- a/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h
> > > > > > @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ struct kvm_dirty_ring {
> > > > > >  	int index;
> > > > > >  };
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > -#ifndef CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING
> > > > > > +#ifndef CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_LOG
> > > > > 
> > > > > s/LOG/LOG_RING/ according to the commit message? Or the name seems too
> > > > > generic.
> > > > 
> > > > The commit message talks about the capability, while the above is the
> > > > config option. If you find the names inappropriate, feel free to
> > > > suggest alternatives (for all I care, they could be called FOO, BAR
> > > > and BAZ).
> > > 
> > > The existing name from David looks better than the new one.. to me.
> > 
> > I'm happy to bikeshed, but please spell it out for me. If we follow
> > the current scheme, we need 3 configuration symbols (of which we
> > already have one), and 2 capabilities (of which we already have one).

I hope it's not bikeshedding.  I normally don't comment on namings at all
because many of them can be "bikeshedding" to me.  But this one is so
special because it directly collides with KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG, which is other
method of dirty tracking.

> > 
> > Do you have any concrete proposal for those?
> 
> In order to make some forward progress, I've reworked the series[1]
> with another proposal for those:
> 
> Config symbols:
> 
> - HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING:
>   * mostly the same meaning as today
>   * not directly selected by any architecture
>   * doesn't expose any capability on its own
> 
> - HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_TSO:
>   * only for strongly ordered architectures
>   * selects HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING
>   * exposes KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING
>   * selected by x86
> 
> - HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_ACQ_REL:
>   * selects HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING
>   * exposes KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ACQ_REL
>   * selected by arm64 and x86
> 
> Capabilities:
> 
> - KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING: the good old x86-specific stuff, advertised
>   when HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_TSO is selected
> 
> - KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ACQ_REL: the new acquire/release semantics,
>   advertised when HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_ACQ_REL is selected
> 
> This significantly reduces the churn and makes things slightly more
> explicit.

This looks good to me, thanks.

-- 
Peter Xu

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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, bgardon@google.com, shuah@kernel.org,
	andrew.jones@linux.dev, will@kernel.org, dmatlack@google.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, zhenyzha@redhat.com, shan.gavin@gmail.com,
	gshan@redhat.com, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] KVM: Add KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ORDERED capability and config option
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:22:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yy8EmMhF+2jcm3m6@x1n> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czblhv2a.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:26:53PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 09:51:39 +0100,
> Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 19:26:18 +0100,
> > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 03:28:34PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 22 Sep 2022 22:48:19 +0100,
> > > > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 06:01:29PM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > > > > > In order to differenciate between architectures that require no extra
> > > > > > synchronisation when accessing the dirty ring and those who do,
> > > > > > add a new capability (KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ORDERED) that identify
> > > > > > the latter sort. TSO architectures can obviously advertise both, while
> > > > > > relaxed architectures most only advertise the ORDERED version.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Suggested-by: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h |  6 +++---
> > > > > >  include/uapi/linux/kvm.h       |  1 +
> > > > > >  virt/kvm/Kconfig               | 14 ++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  virt/kvm/Makefile.kvm          |  2 +-
> > > > > >  virt/kvm/kvm_main.c            | 11 +++++++++--
> > > > > >  5 files changed, 28 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h b/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h
> > > > > > index 906f899813dc..7a0c90ae9a3f 100644
> > > > > > --- a/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h
> > > > > > +++ b/include/linux/kvm_dirty_ring.h
> > > > > > @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ struct kvm_dirty_ring {
> > > > > >  	int index;
> > > > > >  };
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > -#ifndef CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING
> > > > > > +#ifndef CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_LOG
> > > > > 
> > > > > s/LOG/LOG_RING/ according to the commit message? Or the name seems too
> > > > > generic.
> > > > 
> > > > The commit message talks about the capability, while the above is the
> > > > config option. If you find the names inappropriate, feel free to
> > > > suggest alternatives (for all I care, they could be called FOO, BAR
> > > > and BAZ).
> > > 
> > > The existing name from David looks better than the new one.. to me.
> > 
> > I'm happy to bikeshed, but please spell it out for me. If we follow
> > the current scheme, we need 3 configuration symbols (of which we
> > already have one), and 2 capabilities (of which we already have one).

I hope it's not bikeshedding.  I normally don't comment on namings at all
because many of them can be "bikeshedding" to me.  But this one is so
special because it directly collides with KVM_GET_DIRTY_LOG, which is other
method of dirty tracking.

> > 
> > Do you have any concrete proposal for those?
> 
> In order to make some forward progress, I've reworked the series[1]
> with another proposal for those:
> 
> Config symbols:
> 
> - HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING:
>   * mostly the same meaning as today
>   * not directly selected by any architecture
>   * doesn't expose any capability on its own
> 
> - HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_TSO:
>   * only for strongly ordered architectures
>   * selects HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING
>   * exposes KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING
>   * selected by x86
> 
> - HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_ACQ_REL:
>   * selects HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING
>   * exposes KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ACQ_REL
>   * selected by arm64 and x86
> 
> Capabilities:
> 
> - KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING: the good old x86-specific stuff, advertised
>   when HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_TSO is selected
> 
> - KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ACQ_REL: the new acquire/release semantics,
>   advertised when HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_ACQ_REL is selected
> 
> This significantly reduces the churn and makes things slightly more
> explicit.

This looks good to me, thanks.

-- 
Peter Xu


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-24 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-22 17:01 [PATCH 0/6] KVM: Fix dirty-ring ordering on weakly ordered architectures Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] KVM: Use acquire/release semantics when accessing dirty ring GFN state Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 21:38   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-22 21:38     ` Peter Xu
2022-09-22 23:46     ` Gavin Shan
2022-09-22 23:46       ` Gavin Shan
2022-09-23 14:40       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 14:40         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 14:19     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 14:19       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 14:22       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-23 14:22         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-22 17:01 ` [PATCH 2/6] KVM: Add KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ORDERED capability and config option Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 21:48   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-22 21:48     ` Peter Xu
2022-09-23  0:04     ` Gavin Shan
2022-09-23  0:04       ` Gavin Shan
2022-09-23 14:28     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 14:28       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 18:26       ` Peter Xu
2022-09-23 18:26         ` Peter Xu
2022-09-23 21:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-23 21:23           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-23 22:34           ` Peter Xu
2022-09-23 22:34             ` Peter Xu
2022-09-24  8:51         ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24  8:51           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24 11:26           ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24 11:26             ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24 13:22             ` Peter Xu [this message]
2022-09-24 13:22               ` Peter Xu
2022-09-24 18:57               ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24 18:57                 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-25 23:17                 ` Gavin Shan
2022-09-25 23:17                   ` Gavin Shan
2022-09-22 17:01 ` [PATCH 3/6] KVM: x86: Select CONFIG_HAVE_KVM_DIRTY_RING_ORDERED Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 22:46   ` Peter Xu
2022-09-23 22:46     ` Peter Xu
2022-09-24  8:47     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24  8:47       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-24 13:29       ` Peter Xu
2022-09-24 13:29         ` Peter Xu
2022-09-22 17:01 ` [PATCH 4/6] KVM: Document weakly ordered architecture requirements for dirty ring Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01 ` [PATCH 5/6] KVM: selftests: dirty-log: Upgrade dirty_gfn_set_collected() to store-release Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01   ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 21:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-22 21:38     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-23 14:49     ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-23 14:49       ` Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01 ` [PATCH 6/6] KVM: selftests: dirty-log: Use KVM_CAP_DIRTY_LOG_RING_ORDERED of available Marc Zyngier
2022-09-22 17:01   ` Marc Zyngier

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