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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, npiggin@gmail.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Wen Xiong <wenxiong@linux.ibm.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues()
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:18:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNQ64xhCIBU6XM/5@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNQqt1C0pXspGl3d@fedora>

On 08/10/23 at 08:09am, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 03:44:01PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but we can't just do random
> > is_kdump checks, and it's not going to get better by resending it again and
> > again.  If kdump kernels limit the number of possible CPUs, it needs to
> > reflected in cpu_possible_map and we need to use that information.
> > 
> 
> Can you look at previous kdump/arch guys' comment about kdump usage &
> num_possible_cpus?
> 
>     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/CAF+s44RuqswbosY9kMDx35crviQnxOeuvgNsuE75Bb0Y2Jg2uw@mail.gmail.com/
>     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/ZKz912KyFQ7q9qwL@MiWiFi-R3L-srv/
> 
> The point is that kdump kernels does not limit the number of possible CPUs.
> 
> 1) some archs support 'nr_cpus=1' for kdump kernel, which is fine, since
> num_possible_cpus becomes 1.

Yes, "nr_cpus=" is strongly suggested in kdump kernel because "nr_cpus="
limits the possible cpu numbers, while "maxcpuss=" only limits the cpu
number which can be brought up during bootup. We noticed this diference
because a large number of possible cpus will cost more memory in kdump
kernel. e.g percpu initialization, even though kdump kernel have set
"maxcpus=1". 

Currently x86 and arm64 all support "nr_cpus=". Pingfan ever spent much
effort to make patches to add "nr_cpus=" support to ppc64, seems ppc64
dev and maintainers do not care about it. Finally the patches are not
accepted, and the work is not continued.

Now, I am wondering what is the barrier to add "nr_cpus=" to power ach.
Can we reconsider adding 'nr_cpus=' to power arch since real issue
occurred in kdump kernel?

As for this patchset, it can be accpeted so that no failure in kdump
kernel is seen on ARCHes w/o "nr_cpus=" support? My personal opinion.

> 
> 2) some archs do not support 'nr_cpus=1', and have to rely on
> 'max_cpus=1', so num_possible_cpus isn't changed, and kernel just boots
> with single online cpu. That causes trouble because blk-mq limits single
> queue.
> 
> Documentation/admin-guide/kdump/kdump.rst
> 
> Thanks, 
> Ming
> 


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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, npiggin@gmail.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Wen Xiong <wenxiong@linux.ibm.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues()
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:18:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNQ64xhCIBU6XM/5@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNQqt1C0pXspGl3d@fedora>

On 08/10/23 at 08:09am, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 03:44:01PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but we can't just do random
> > is_kdump checks, and it's not going to get better by resending it again and
> > again.  If kdump kernels limit the number of possible CPUs, it needs to
> > reflected in cpu_possible_map and we need to use that information.
> > 
> 
> Can you look at previous kdump/arch guys' comment about kdump usage &
> num_possible_cpus?
> 
>     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/CAF+s44RuqswbosY9kMDx35crviQnxOeuvgNsuE75Bb0Y2Jg2uw@mail.gmail.com/
>     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/ZKz912KyFQ7q9qwL@MiWiFi-R3L-srv/
> 
> The point is that kdump kernels does not limit the number of possible CPUs.
> 
> 1) some archs support 'nr_cpus=1' for kdump kernel, which is fine, since
> num_possible_cpus becomes 1.

Yes, "nr_cpus=" is strongly suggested in kdump kernel because "nr_cpus="
limits the possible cpu numbers, while "maxcpuss=" only limits the cpu
number which can be brought up during bootup. We noticed this diference
because a large number of possible cpus will cost more memory in kdump
kernel. e.g percpu initialization, even though kdump kernel have set
"maxcpus=1". 

Currently x86 and arm64 all support "nr_cpus=". Pingfan ever spent much
effort to make patches to add "nr_cpus=" support to ppc64, seems ppc64
dev and maintainers do not care about it. Finally the patches are not
accepted, and the work is not continued.

Now, I am wondering what is the barrier to add "nr_cpus=" to power ach.
Can we reconsider adding 'nr_cpus=' to power arch since real issue
occurred in kdump kernel?

As for this patchset, it can be accpeted so that no failure in kdump
kernel is seen on ARCHes w/o "nr_cpus=" support? My personal opinion.

> 
> 2) some archs do not support 'nr_cpus=1', and have to rely on
> 'max_cpus=1', so num_possible_cpus isn't changed, and kernel just boots
> with single online cpu. That causes trouble because blk-mq limits single
> queue.
> 
> Documentation/admin-guide/kdump/kdump.rst
> 
> Thanks, 
> Ming
> 


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, npiggin@gmail.com,
	christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Pingfan Liu <piliu@redhat.com>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Wen Xiong <wenxiong@linux.ibm.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues()
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2023 09:18:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZNQ64xhCIBU6XM/5@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZNQqt1C0pXspGl3d@fedora>

On 08/10/23 at 08:09am, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 03:44:01PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but we can't just do random
> > is_kdump checks, and it's not going to get better by resending it again and
> > again.  If kdump kernels limit the number of possible CPUs, it needs to
> > reflected in cpu_possible_map and we need to use that information.
> > 
> 
> Can you look at previous kdump/arch guys' comment about kdump usage &
> num_possible_cpus?
> 
>     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/CAF+s44RuqswbosY9kMDx35crviQnxOeuvgNsuE75Bb0Y2Jg2uw@mail.gmail.com/
>     https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/ZKz912KyFQ7q9qwL@MiWiFi-R3L-srv/
> 
> The point is that kdump kernels does not limit the number of possible CPUs.
> 
> 1) some archs support 'nr_cpus=1' for kdump kernel, which is fine, since
> num_possible_cpus becomes 1.

Yes, "nr_cpus=" is strongly suggested in kdump kernel because "nr_cpus="
limits the possible cpu numbers, while "maxcpuss=" only limits the cpu
number which can be brought up during bootup. We noticed this diference
because a large number of possible cpus will cost more memory in kdump
kernel. e.g percpu initialization, even though kdump kernel have set
"maxcpus=1". 

Currently x86 and arm64 all support "nr_cpus=". Pingfan ever spent much
effort to make patches to add "nr_cpus=" support to ppc64, seems ppc64
dev and maintainers do not care about it. Finally the patches are not
accepted, and the work is not continued.

Now, I am wondering what is the barrier to add "nr_cpus=" to power ach.
Can we reconsider adding 'nr_cpus=' to power arch since real issue
occurred in kdump kernel?

As for this patchset, it can be accpeted so that no failure in kdump
kernel is seen on ARCHes w/o "nr_cpus=" support? My personal opinion.

> 
> 2) some archs do not support 'nr_cpus=1', and have to rely on
> 'max_cpus=1', so num_possible_cpus isn't changed, and kernel just boots
> with single online cpu. That causes trouble because blk-mq limits single
> queue.
> 
> Documentation/admin-guide/kdump/kdump.rst
> 
> Thanks, 
> Ming
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-10  1:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-08 10:42 [PATCH V3 0/14] blk-mq: fix wrong queue mapping for kdump kernel Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 01/14] blk-mq: add blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues() Ming Lei
2023-08-09 13:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-10  0:09     ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  0:09       ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  0:09       ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  1:18       ` Baoquan He [this message]
2023-08-10  1:18         ` Baoquan He
2023-08-10  1:18         ` Baoquan He
2023-08-10  2:06         ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  2:06           ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  2:06           ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10  3:01           ` Baoquan He
2023-08-10  3:01             ` Baoquan He
2023-08-10  3:01             ` Baoquan He
2023-08-11  7:53             ` Hari Bathini
2023-08-11  7:53               ` Hari Bathini
2023-08-11  7:53               ` Hari Bathini
2023-09-05  5:03               ` Baoquan He
2023-09-05  5:03                 ` Baoquan He
2023-09-05  5:03                 ` Baoquan He
2023-08-11 13:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-11 13:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-11 13:10         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 02/14] nvme-pci: use blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues() to calculate io queues Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 03/14] ublk: limit max allowed nr_hw_queues Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 04/14] virtio-blk: limit max allowed submit queues Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42   ` Ming Lei
2023-08-10 19:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10 19:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 05/14] scsi: core: add helper of scsi_max_nr_hw_queues() Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 06/14] scsi: lpfc: use blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues() to calculate io vectors Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 07/14] scsi: mpi3mr: take blk_mq_max_nr_hw_queues() into account for calculating " Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 08/14] scsi: megaraid: " Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 09/14] scsi: mpt3sas: " Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 10/14] scsi: pm8001: " Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 11/14] scsi: hisi: " Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 12/14] scsi: ufs: limit max allowed nr_hw_queues Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 13/14] scsi: storvsc: " Ming Lei
2023-08-08 10:42 ` [PATCH V3 14/14] blk-mq: add helpers for treating kdump kernel Ming Lei
2023-08-10  8:00   ` kernel test robot

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