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From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
To: Jim Quinlan <james.quinlan@broadcom.com>, robh@kernel.org
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nicolas Saenz Julienne" <nsaenz@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Cyril Brulebois" <kibi@debian.org>,
	"Phil Elwell" <phil@raspberrypi.com>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
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	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Jim Quinlan" <jim2101024@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure appropriate HW CLKREQ# mode
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:42:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZON3vXwjkSpoqY2K@lpieralisi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+-6iNy7bqxSgCrgtPv3R-0ZePT92LWL0s3Zvz8kAANVH9b=cQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 08:15:02AM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 4:35 AM Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:40:53AM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> > > v6 -- No code has been changed.
> > >    -- Changed commit subject and comment in "#PERST" commit (Bjorn, Cyril)
> > >    -- Changed sign-off and author email address for all commits.
> > >       This was due to a change in Broadcom's upstreaming policy.
> > >
> > > v5 -- Remove DT property "brcm,completion-timeout-us" from
> > >       "DT bindings" commit.  Although this error may be reported
> > >       as a completion timeout, its cause was traced to an
> > >       internal bus timeout which may occur even when there is
> > >       no PCIe access being processed.  We set a timeout of four
> > >       seconds only if we are operating in "L1SS CLKREQ#" mode.
> > >    -- Correct CEM 2.0 reference provided by HW engineer,
> > >       s/3.2.5.2.5/3.2.5.2.2/ (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Add newline to dev_info() string (Stefan)
> > >    -- Change variable rval to unsigned (Stefan)
> > >    -- s/implementaion/implementation/ (Bjorn)
> > >    -- s/superpowersave/powersupersave/ (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Slightly modify message on "PERST#" commit.
> > >    -- Rebase to torvalds master
> > >
> > > v4 -- New commit that asserts PERST# for 2711/RPi SOCs at PCIe RC
> > >       driver probe() time.  This is done in Raspian Linux and its
> > >       absence may be the cause of a failing test case.
> > >    -- New commit that removes stale comment.
> > >
> > > v3 -- Rewrote commit msgs and comments refering panics if L1SS
> > >       is enabled/disabled; the code snippet that unadvertises L1SS
> > >       eliminates the panic scenario. (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Add reference for "400ns of CLKREQ# assertion" blurb (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Put binding names in DT commit Subject (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Add a verb to a commit's subject line (Bjorn)
> > >    -- s/accomodat(\w+)/accommodat$1/g (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Rewrote commit msgs and comments refering panics if L1SS
> > >       is enabled/disabled; the code snippet that unadvertises L1SS
> > >       eliminates the panic scenario. (Bjorn)
> > >
> > > v2 -- Changed binding property 'brcm,completion-timeout-msec' to
> > >       'brcm,completion-timeout-us'.  (StefanW for standard suffix).
> > >    -- Warn when clamping timeout value, and include clamped
> > >       region in message. Also add min and max in YAML. (StefanW)
> > >    -- Qualify description of "brcm,completion-timeout-us" so that
> > >       it refers to PCIe transactions. (StefanW)
> > >    -- Remvove mention of Linux specifics in binding description. (StefanW)
> > >    -- s/clkreq#/CLKREQ#/g (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Refactor completion-timeout-us code to compare max and min to
> > >       value given by the property (as opposed to the computed value).
> > >
> > > v1 -- The current driver assumes the downstream devices can
> > >       provide CLKREQ# for ASPM.  These commits accomodate devices
> > >       w/ or w/o clkreq# and also handle L1SS-capable devices.
> > >
> > >    -- The Raspian Linux folks have already been using a PCIe RC
> > >       property "brcm,enable-l1ss".  These commits use the same
> > >       property, in a backward-compatible manner, and the implementaion
> > >       adds more detail and also automatically identifies devices w/o
> > >       a clkreq# signal, i.e. most devices plugged into an RPi CM4
> > >       IO board.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Quinlan (5):
> > >   dt-bindings: PCI: brcmstb: Add brcm,enable-l1ss property
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Configure HW CLKREQ# mode appropriate for downstream
> > >     device
> >
> > I am not merging the first two patches since the discussion thread
> > is still open and I'd like to understand better what can/should be
> > done, sorry.
> 
> Hello Lorenzo,
> 
> This patch-set has been stable for months, V5 was out early May and
> the V6 changes
> did not involve code.  I'm a little surprised that you are voicing
> concern at this stage.
> 
> The previous discussions covered all aspects of these commits AFAICT.
> Please  review
> them and the commit messages and let me know what issues you do not understand
> or any topics that were not considered.

I disagree with the reasoning behind "brcm,enable-l1ss" property usage
instead of a command line option - at least I would like to get a
comment from DT maintainers about it.

I think Bjorn made the point consistently and I also think he is right.

I would like to get Rob's opinion on this. I know he acked the DT
bindings (I have a comment on those too) but regardless, it is clearly a
property used for what is a command line configuration parameter,
no two ways about it.

Thanks,
Lorenzo

> 
> Are you concerned about the Broadcom STB/CM community  or the RPi community?
> For the former, I have direct communication w/ our customers and none of them
> are even close to using upstream (they may backport my commits).  For
> the latter, I have
> tested these commits on the official RPi4 and CM4 IO platforms, and
> Cyril has also put in
> an admiral amount of testing.
> 
> Note that I have on my desk a CM4 IO board w/ a conventional PCIe
> device, and it does not boot
> upstream master Linux until these patches are applied.
> 
> Further, Raspian OS has already introduced the "brcm,enable-l1ss"
> property but did not upstream it, and
> my commits are backwards compatible with this.
> 
> >
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Set higher value for internal bus timeout
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Assert PERST# on BCM2711
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Remove stale comment
> >
> > Is it OK to apply these three on their own ? Overall it would be
> > great to avoid mixing patches with different end goals in a single
> > series.
> 
> Well, they are related for one customer who wants to use L1SS power
> savings AND require
> a long  period for the internal timeout.  But, yes, these commits are
> fine  to apply
> independently.
> 
> Regards,
> Jim Quinlan
> Broadcom STB
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > >  .../bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml           |  9 ++
> > >  drivers/pci/controller/pcie-brcmstb.c         | 91 ++++++++++++++++---
> > >  2 files changed, 89 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > >
> > >
> > > base-commit: 8a28a0b6f1a1dcbf5a834600a9acfbe2ba51e5eb
> > > --
> > > 2.17.1
> > >
> >
> >



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
To: Jim Quinlan <james.quinlan@broadcom.com>, robh@kernel.org
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nicolas Saenz Julienne" <nsaenz@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"Cyril Brulebois" <kibi@debian.org>,
	"Phil Elwell" <phil@raspberrypi.com>,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"open list:OPEN FIRMWARE AND FLATTENED DEVICE TREE BINDINGS"
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Jim Quinlan" <jim2101024@gmail.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2711/BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"moderated list:BROADCOM BCM2711/BCM2835 ARM ARCHITECTURE"
	<linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure appropriate HW CLKREQ# mode
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 16:42:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZON3vXwjkSpoqY2K@lpieralisi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+-6iNy7bqxSgCrgtPv3R-0ZePT92LWL0s3Zvz8kAANVH9b=cQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 08:15:02AM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 4:35 AM Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 10:40:53AM -0400, Jim Quinlan wrote:
> > > v6 -- No code has been changed.
> > >    -- Changed commit subject and comment in "#PERST" commit (Bjorn, Cyril)
> > >    -- Changed sign-off and author email address for all commits.
> > >       This was due to a change in Broadcom's upstreaming policy.
> > >
> > > v5 -- Remove DT property "brcm,completion-timeout-us" from
> > >       "DT bindings" commit.  Although this error may be reported
> > >       as a completion timeout, its cause was traced to an
> > >       internal bus timeout which may occur even when there is
> > >       no PCIe access being processed.  We set a timeout of four
> > >       seconds only if we are operating in "L1SS CLKREQ#" mode.
> > >    -- Correct CEM 2.0 reference provided by HW engineer,
> > >       s/3.2.5.2.5/3.2.5.2.2/ (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Add newline to dev_info() string (Stefan)
> > >    -- Change variable rval to unsigned (Stefan)
> > >    -- s/implementaion/implementation/ (Bjorn)
> > >    -- s/superpowersave/powersupersave/ (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Slightly modify message on "PERST#" commit.
> > >    -- Rebase to torvalds master
> > >
> > > v4 -- New commit that asserts PERST# for 2711/RPi SOCs at PCIe RC
> > >       driver probe() time.  This is done in Raspian Linux and its
> > >       absence may be the cause of a failing test case.
> > >    -- New commit that removes stale comment.
> > >
> > > v3 -- Rewrote commit msgs and comments refering panics if L1SS
> > >       is enabled/disabled; the code snippet that unadvertises L1SS
> > >       eliminates the panic scenario. (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Add reference for "400ns of CLKREQ# assertion" blurb (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Put binding names in DT commit Subject (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Add a verb to a commit's subject line (Bjorn)
> > >    -- s/accomodat(\w+)/accommodat$1/g (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Rewrote commit msgs and comments refering panics if L1SS
> > >       is enabled/disabled; the code snippet that unadvertises L1SS
> > >       eliminates the panic scenario. (Bjorn)
> > >
> > > v2 -- Changed binding property 'brcm,completion-timeout-msec' to
> > >       'brcm,completion-timeout-us'.  (StefanW for standard suffix).
> > >    -- Warn when clamping timeout value, and include clamped
> > >       region in message. Also add min and max in YAML. (StefanW)
> > >    -- Qualify description of "brcm,completion-timeout-us" so that
> > >       it refers to PCIe transactions. (StefanW)
> > >    -- Remvove mention of Linux specifics in binding description. (StefanW)
> > >    -- s/clkreq#/CLKREQ#/g (Bjorn)
> > >    -- Refactor completion-timeout-us code to compare max and min to
> > >       value given by the property (as opposed to the computed value).
> > >
> > > v1 -- The current driver assumes the downstream devices can
> > >       provide CLKREQ# for ASPM.  These commits accomodate devices
> > >       w/ or w/o clkreq# and also handle L1SS-capable devices.
> > >
> > >    -- The Raspian Linux folks have already been using a PCIe RC
> > >       property "brcm,enable-l1ss".  These commits use the same
> > >       property, in a backward-compatible manner, and the implementaion
> > >       adds more detail and also automatically identifies devices w/o
> > >       a clkreq# signal, i.e. most devices plugged into an RPi CM4
> > >       IO board.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Quinlan (5):
> > >   dt-bindings: PCI: brcmstb: Add brcm,enable-l1ss property
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Configure HW CLKREQ# mode appropriate for downstream
> > >     device
> >
> > I am not merging the first two patches since the discussion thread
> > is still open and I'd like to understand better what can/should be
> > done, sorry.
> 
> Hello Lorenzo,
> 
> This patch-set has been stable for months, V5 was out early May and
> the V6 changes
> did not involve code.  I'm a little surprised that you are voicing
> concern at this stage.
> 
> The previous discussions covered all aspects of these commits AFAICT.
> Please  review
> them and the commit messages and let me know what issues you do not understand
> or any topics that were not considered.

I disagree with the reasoning behind "brcm,enable-l1ss" property usage
instead of a command line option - at least I would like to get a
comment from DT maintainers about it.

I think Bjorn made the point consistently and I also think he is right.

I would like to get Rob's opinion on this. I know he acked the DT
bindings (I have a comment on those too) but regardless, it is clearly a
property used for what is a command line configuration parameter,
no two ways about it.

Thanks,
Lorenzo

> 
> Are you concerned about the Broadcom STB/CM community  or the RPi community?
> For the former, I have direct communication w/ our customers and none of them
> are even close to using upstream (they may backport my commits).  For
> the latter, I have
> tested these commits on the official RPi4 and CM4 IO platforms, and
> Cyril has also put in
> an admiral amount of testing.
> 
> Note that I have on my desk a CM4 IO board w/ a conventional PCIe
> device, and it does not boot
> upstream master Linux until these patches are applied.
> 
> Further, Raspian OS has already introduced the "brcm,enable-l1ss"
> property but did not upstream it, and
> my commits are backwards compatible with this.
> 
> >
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Set higher value for internal bus timeout
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Assert PERST# on BCM2711
> > >   PCI: brcmstb: Remove stale comment
> >
> > Is it OK to apply these three on their own ? Overall it would be
> > great to avoid mixing patches with different end goals in a single
> > series.
> 
> Well, they are related for one customer who wants to use L1SS power
> savings AND require
> a long  period for the internal timeout.  But, yes, these commits are
> fine  to apply
> independently.
> 
> Regards,
> Jim Quinlan
> Broadcom STB
> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > >  .../bindings/pci/brcm,stb-pcie.yaml           |  9 ++
> > >  drivers/pci/controller/pcie-brcmstb.c         | 91 ++++++++++++++++---
> > >  2 files changed, 89 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > >
> > >
> > > base-commit: 8a28a0b6f1a1dcbf5a834600a9acfbe2ba51e5eb
> > > --
> > > 2.17.1
> > >
> >
> >



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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-23 14:40 [PATCH v6 0/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure appropriate HW CLKREQ# mode Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] dt-bindings: PCI: brcmstb: Add brcm,enable-l1ss property Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-21 14:46   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-21 14:46     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-21 15:25     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-21 15:25       ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-21 15:41       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-21 15:41         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-21 16:01         ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-21 16:01           ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-23  7:30           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-23  7:30             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-23 12:42             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-08-23 12:42               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-08-23 15:02               ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-23 15:02                 ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-23 14:48             ` Rob Herring
2023-08-23 14:48               ` Rob Herring
2023-08-23 16:29               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-23 16:29                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-23 18:26                 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-08-23 18:26                   ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2023-08-24 15:19                   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-24 15:19                     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure HW CLKREQ# mode appropriate for downstream device Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-09-05 20:24   ` Sam Edwards
2023-09-05 20:24     ` Sam Edwards
2023-06-23 14:40 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] PCI: brcmstb: Set higher value for internal bus timeout Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-07-28  8:43   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-07-28  8:43     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
     [not found]     ` <CA+-6iNzuNZ0TGUvSKsq3outKnCBTkqtxygKOuM4=J-CPxcBb2g@mail.gmail.com>
2023-08-14 19:30       ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-14 19:30         ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-14 22:06         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-08-14 22:06           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2023-08-15 12:34           ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-15 12:34             ` Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] PCI: brcmstb: Assert PERST# on BCM2711 Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] PCI: brcmstb: Remove stale comment Jim Quinlan
2023-06-23 14:40   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-06-29  1:59 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] PCI: brcmstb: Configure appropriate HW CLKREQ# mode Cyril Brulebois
2023-06-29  1:59   ` Cyril Brulebois
2023-08-21  8:34 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-21  8:34   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-21 12:15   ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-21 12:15     ` Jim Quinlan
2023-08-21 14:42     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2023-08-21 14:42       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-24 15:36 ` (subset) " Lorenzo Pieralisi
2023-08-24 15:36   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi

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