From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, joro@8bytes.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, yi.l.liu@intel.com,
eric.auger@redhat.com, vasant.hegde@amd.com, jon.grimm@amd.com,
santosh.shukla@amd.com, Dhaval.Giani@amd.com,
shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv1 04/14] iommufd: Add struct iommufd_viommu and iommufd_viommu_ops
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 12:55:46 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkOJgvMNFaZZ06OO@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkGKKoHnykAdGJq6@nvidia.com>
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 08:34:02PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 11:03:53AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 08:47:01PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > Add a new iommufd_viommu core structure to represent a vIOMMU instance in
> > > the user space, typically backed by a HW-accelerated feature of an IOMMU,
> > > e.g. NVIDIA CMDQ-Virtualization (an ARM SMMUv3 extension) and AMD Hardware
> > > Accelerated Virtualized IOMMU (vIOMMU).
> >
> > I expect this will also be the only way to pass in an associated KVM,
> > userspace would supply the kvm when creating the viommu.
> >
> > The tricky bit of this flow is how to manage the S2. It is necessary
> > that the S2 be linked to the viommu:
> >
> > 1) ARM BTM requires the VMID to be shared with KVM
> > 2) AMD and others need the S2 translation because some of the HW
> > acceleration is done inside the guest address space
> >
> > I haven't looked closely at AMD but presumably the VIOMMU create will
> > have to install the S2 into a DID or something?
> >
> > So we need the S2 to exist before the VIOMMU is created, but the
> > drivers are going to need some more fixing before that will fully
> > work.
> >
> > Does the nesting domain create need the viommu as well (in place of
> > the S2 hwpt)? That feels sort of natural.
>
> Yes, I had a similar thought initially: each viommu is backed by
> a nested IOMMU HW, and a special HW accelerator like VCMDQ could
> be treated as an extension on top of that. It might not be very
> straightforward like the current design having vintf<->viommu and
> vcmdq <-> vqueue though...
vqueue should be considered a sub object of the viommu and hold a
refcount on the viommu object for its lifetime.
> In that case, we can then support viommu_cache_invalidate, which
> is quite natural for SMMUv3. Yet, I recall Kevin said that VT-d
> doesn't want or need that.
Right, Intel currently doesn't need it, but I feel like everyone will
need this eventually as the fast invalidation path is quite important.
Jason
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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
Cc: will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, kevin.tian@intel.com,
suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com, joro@8bytes.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org, yi.l.liu@intel.com,
eric.auger@redhat.com, vasant.hegde@amd.com, jon.grimm@amd.com,
santosh.shukla@amd.com, Dhaval.Giani@amd.com,
shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFCv1 04/14] iommufd: Add struct iommufd_viommu and iommufd_viommu_ops
Date: Tue, 14 May 2024 12:55:46 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkOJgvMNFaZZ06OO@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZkGKKoHnykAdGJq6@nvidia.com>
On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 08:34:02PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 11:03:53AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 08:47:01PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> > > Add a new iommufd_viommu core structure to represent a vIOMMU instance in
> > > the user space, typically backed by a HW-accelerated feature of an IOMMU,
> > > e.g. NVIDIA CMDQ-Virtualization (an ARM SMMUv3 extension) and AMD Hardware
> > > Accelerated Virtualized IOMMU (vIOMMU).
> >
> > I expect this will also be the only way to pass in an associated KVM,
> > userspace would supply the kvm when creating the viommu.
> >
> > The tricky bit of this flow is how to manage the S2. It is necessary
> > that the S2 be linked to the viommu:
> >
> > 1) ARM BTM requires the VMID to be shared with KVM
> > 2) AMD and others need the S2 translation because some of the HW
> > acceleration is done inside the guest address space
> >
> > I haven't looked closely at AMD but presumably the VIOMMU create will
> > have to install the S2 into a DID or something?
> >
> > So we need the S2 to exist before the VIOMMU is created, but the
> > drivers are going to need some more fixing before that will fully
> > work.
> >
> > Does the nesting domain create need the viommu as well (in place of
> > the S2 hwpt)? That feels sort of natural.
>
> Yes, I had a similar thought initially: each viommu is backed by
> a nested IOMMU HW, and a special HW accelerator like VCMDQ could
> be treated as an extension on top of that. It might not be very
> straightforward like the current design having vintf<->viommu and
> vcmdq <-> vqueue though...
vqueue should be considered a sub object of the viommu and hold a
refcount on the viommu object for its lifetime.
> In that case, we can then support viommu_cache_invalidate, which
> is quite natural for SMMUv3. Yet, I recall Kevin said that VT-d
> doesn't want or need that.
Right, Intel currently doesn't need it, but I feel like everyone will
need this eventually as the fast invalidation path is quite important.
Jason
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