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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Dave Vasilevsky" <dave@vasilevsky.ca>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Reimar Döffinger" <Reimar.Doeffinger@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crash: Default to CRASH_DUMP=n when support for it is unlikely
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:01:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zs2WBgtADYxzVMyt@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f355e26eead641f5f281372aadf9dee7de19a4c7.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de>

On 08/27/24 at 08:37am, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 14:22 +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> > About why it's enabled by default, as Michael has explained in another
> > thread, distros usualy needs to enable it by default because vmcore
> > dumping is a very important feature on servers, even guest instances. 
> > Even though kdump codes are enabled to built in, not providing
> > crashkernel= value won't make vmcore dumping take effect, it won't cost
> > system resources in that case.
> 
> OK, thanks for the explanation. But as we have found out in the mean time,
> the assumption was wrong to enable it by default for all architectures as
> some architectures cannot boot a crash dump kernel with their default bootloader
> but only through kexec.
> 
> Can we have a follow-up patch to disable crash dump kernels where they're
> not needed? I mean, not every platform supported by Linux is obviously a
> x86-based or POWER-based server.

Yes, while isn't Dave's patch a good one to fix it? In Dave's patch, the
default enabling of CRASH_DUMP has been taken off, change to rely on
ARCH_DEFAULT_CRASH_DUMP provided by each arch.

 config CRASH_DUMP
        bool "kernel crash dumps"
-       default y
+       default ARCH_DEFAULT_CRASH_DUMP


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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Dave Vasilevsky" <dave@vasilevsky.ca>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	mpe@ellerman.id.au, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Reimar Döffinger" <Reimar.Doeffinger@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crash: Default to CRASH_DUMP=n when support for it is unlikely
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 17:01:58 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zs2WBgtADYxzVMyt@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f355e26eead641f5f281372aadf9dee7de19a4c7.camel@physik.fu-berlin.de>

On 08/27/24 at 08:37am, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-08-27 at 14:22 +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> > About why it's enabled by default, as Michael has explained in another
> > thread, distros usualy needs to enable it by default because vmcore
> > dumping is a very important feature on servers, even guest instances. 
> > Even though kdump codes are enabled to built in, not providing
> > crashkernel= value won't make vmcore dumping take effect, it won't cost
> > system resources in that case.
> 
> OK, thanks for the explanation. But as we have found out in the mean time,
> the assumption was wrong to enable it by default for all architectures as
> some architectures cannot boot a crash dump kernel with their default bootloader
> but only through kexec.
> 
> Can we have a follow-up patch to disable crash dump kernels where they're
> not needed? I mean, not every platform supported by Linux is obviously a
> x86-based or POWER-based server.

Yes, while isn't Dave's patch a good one to fix it? In Dave's patch, the
default enabling of CRASH_DUMP has been taken off, change to rely on
ARCH_DEFAULT_CRASH_DUMP provided by each arch.

 config CRASH_DUMP
        bool "kernel crash dumps"
-       default y
+       default ARCH_DEFAULT_CRASH_DUMP


  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-27  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-23 12:51 [PATCH] crash: Default to CRASH_DUMP=n when support for it is unlikely Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-23 12:51 ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-23 13:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-23 13:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-23 18:16   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-08-23 18:16     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-08-27  6:22     ` Baoquan He
2024-08-27  6:22       ` Baoquan He
2024-08-27  6:37       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-08-27  6:37         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-08-27  9:01         ` Baoquan He [this message]
2024-08-27  9:01           ` Baoquan He
2024-08-26  2:02   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-08-26  2:02     ` Michael Ellerman
2024-08-26  5:38     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-08-26  5:38       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2024-08-26  6:03       ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-26  6:03         ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-30  3:15 ` Baoquan He
2024-08-30  3:15   ` Baoquan He
2024-08-30  3:37   ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-30  3:37     ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-30  6:30     ` Baoquan He
2024-08-30  6:30       ` Baoquan He
2024-08-30  6:35 ` Baoquan He
2024-08-30  6:35   ` Baoquan He
2024-08-30  7:24   ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-08-30  7:24     ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-09-08 19:57 ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-09-08 19:57   ` Dave Vasilevsky
2024-09-09  2:35   ` Baoquan He
2024-09-09  2:35     ` Baoquan He
2024-09-09  6:40   ` Michael Ellerman
2024-09-09  6:40     ` Michael Ellerman

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