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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	jaegeuk@kernel.org, linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] f2fs: introduce flush_policy sysfs entry
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 00:59:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJr0Tk36ZNiCg8mQ@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dec5b832-53f1-4274-902c-418f01df9458@kernel.org>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 03:53:54PM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> > What did you use before?  At least for older qemu the default was
> > buffered I/O, which can lead to very expensive fua or flush calls.
> 
> Previously, I didn't use any cache= option, as manual described, it
> should equal to cache=wrteback.

Modern qemu actually split the cache option.  You absolute want
cache.direct=on.  If you don't do simulated power fail testing by
killing qemu (or run real workloads for the matter, but who does that
:)) it might make sense to just ignore the flushes with cache.no-flush=on
as well, which is what I do for my test VMs on the laptop.


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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Chao Yu <chao@kernel.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	jaegeuk@kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v3] f2fs: introduce flush_policy sysfs entry
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 00:59:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJr0Tk36ZNiCg8mQ@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dec5b832-53f1-4274-902c-418f01df9458@kernel.org>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2025 at 03:53:54PM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> > What did you use before?  At least for older qemu the default was
> > buffered I/O, which can lead to very expensive fua or flush calls.
> 
> Previously, I didn't use any cache= option, as manual described, it
> should equal to cache=wrteback.

Modern qemu actually split the cache option.  You absolute want
cache.direct=on.  If you don't do simulated power fail testing by
killing qemu (or run real workloads for the matter, but who does that
:)) it might make sense to just ignore the flushes with cache.no-flush=on
as well, which is what I do for my test VMs on the laptop.



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  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-12  7:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07  3:48 [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v3] f2fs: introduce flush_policy sysfs entry Chao Yu via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-08-07  3:48 ` Chao Yu
2025-08-07  5:31 ` [f2fs-dev] " Zhiguo Niu
2025-08-07  5:31   ` Zhiguo Niu
2025-08-11 10:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-11 10:52   ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-11 13:44   ` Bart Van Assche
2025-08-11 13:44     ` [f2fs-dev] " Bart Van Assche via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-08-12  6:39     ` Chao Yu
2025-08-12  6:39       ` [f2fs-dev] " Chao Yu via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-08-12  6:28   ` Chao Yu
2025-08-12  6:28     ` [f2fs-dev] " Chao Yu via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-08-12  7:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-12  7:32       ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-12  7:53       ` Chao Yu
2025-08-12  7:53         ` [f2fs-dev] " Chao Yu via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-08-12  7:59         ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-08-12  7:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-08-12  8:22           ` Chao Yu
2025-08-12  8:22             ` [f2fs-dev] " Chao Yu via Linux-f2fs-devel

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