From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Pranjal Shrivastava <praan@google.com>,
Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
Shivaji Kant <shivajikant@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] nfs: Optimize direct I/O to use folios for requests
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 23:56:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aj4iiD5C_yyLeb3U@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajQ21kH1ZVajS2Y7@casper.infradead.org>
[sorry, dropped the ball a bit on this due to overload]
On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 07:20:06PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 07:10:45AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2026 at 05:23:48PM +0000, Pranjal Shrivastava wrote:
> > > AFAIU, the MM subsystem explicitly ensures that every valid struct page
> > > is part of a folio.
> >
> > It is definitively not what the vision for the folio is, although if
> > I'm not mistaken it actually is still true right now.
>
> It's not true, eg, for slab. While there's still a struct page there
> for slab, there's no refcount and flags like PG_locked have different
> meanings. You'll get into a lot of trouble trying to treat slabs as
> folios (and that will include assertions tripping).
True. But also not relevant for direct I/O user pinning. If we stopped
having valid folios for anything mapped into userspace,
iov_iter_extract_bvecs would run into problems, and we had the discussion
before that at least right now it would be hard to fix.
Also if iov_iter_extract_bvecs was used on kvec or bvec iters we could
run into the slab problem. The block usage currently makes sure bvec
iters are not handed to iov_iter_extract_bvecs, but there is no such
thing for kvec vectors, although no one is using them for direct I/O
right now. Not that I'd want to rely on that in the long run.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-26 6:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-16 13:39 [PATCH v2 0/7] nfs: Modernize Direct I/O path Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] nfs: make nfs_page pin-aware Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] nfs: Track number of pinned pages in nfs_page Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] nfs: Introduce nfs_release_request_list helper Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] nfs: migrate direct I/O to iov_iter_extract_pages Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] nfs: introduce nfs_direct_extract_pages helper Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 13:39 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] nfs: Optimize direct I/O to use folios for requests Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 15:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2026-06-16 17:23 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-18 14:10 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-06-18 18:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-06-19 12:32 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-26 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2026-07-03 12:46 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-03 14:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-07 12:08 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-08 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-08 11:47 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-09 6:19 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-07-09 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-09 6:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-06-16 13:40 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] nfs: Cleanup the nfs_page_create_from_page helper Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-16 14:15 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] nfs: Modernize Direct I/O path Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-18 13:46 ` Chuck Lever
2026-06-19 11:50 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-06-18 14:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-06-19 11:48 ` Pranjal Shrivastava
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