From: Stephan Gerhold <stephan.gerhold@linaro.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Sneh Mankad <sneh.mankad@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>,
Shawn Guo <shawn.guo@linaro.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] irqchip/irq-qcom-mpm: Register MPM under CPU cluster power domain
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2026 12:49:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aldlu-Qdf_T9uwbf@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <401ee2b2-1d82-40b0-95aa-005840a5078f@oss.qualcomm.com>
On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 12:45:48PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 7/15/26 12:34 PM, Stephan Gerhold wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2026 at 11:46:58AM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >> On 7/13/26 12:25 PM, Sneh Mankad wrote:
> >>> MPM irqchip needs to notify RPM (Resource Power Manager) processor to read
> >>> the latest wake up capable interrupts when the CPU cluster is entering the
> >>> deepest idle state. This is done by sending IPC interrupt to RPM and is
> >>> implemented as .power_off() callback by registering MPM as parent power
> >>> domain to CPU cluster.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> If MPM has not registered with CPU cluster power domain, utilize the CPU PM
> >>> notifications to manage RPM communication when the last CPU goes to power
> >>> collapse.
> >>
> >> I have mixed feelings about this case. The RPMH RSC driver keeps that as a
> >> fallback for platforms which don't have PSCI OSI mode specifically.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, there are platforms (early arm64 - pre-msm8996 and almost
> >> all of the arm32 platforms) that don't define any CPU power domains, so
> >> perhaps it's necessary after all..
> >>
> >
> > I don't think this fallback is relevant for the non-PSCI QC platforms,
> > for the following reasons:
> >
> > - They don't define the MPM.
> > - They don't support cluster idle upstream, so they don't need to
> > define the MPM. They can't reach the idle state where it would become
> > relevant.
> > - The setup for cluster idle without PSCI is essentially equivalent to
> > OSI, except that the SPM/SAW driver needs to program the idle state
> > to enter. There is one SPM/SAW for every idle domain (e.g. on
> > MSM8939: 2x4 CPU, 2x Cluster, 1x System). You can just model the
> > SPM/SAW instances as power domains to get the same setup as PSCI OSI
> > (I had a draft for this at some point). So if someone ever implements
> > this, we should be able to use the same approach as for PSCI OSI.
>
> Yeah I said 'necessary' because of the arm32 platforms. This would probably
> be the preferable way forward.
>
> > I'm not aware of non-OSI PSCI platforms with MPM either, so I'm not sure
> > when this fallback would be used.
>
> I think it's generally only SC7180 and there's definitely no MPM there.
>
> > We probably do need some fallback for the old sm6375/agatii DTBs though.
>
> The sleep logic doesn't really matter without the platforms hitting a
> specific power state anyway, so I'm not sure we actually have to (i.e.
> the regressed path can't be exercised today anyway)
>
So are you saying the MPM is currently assigned as parent to some dummy
idle states in sm6375/agatti.dtsi, which aren't actually triggering APSS
shutdown? Or is it just irrelevant because other power resources keep
the whole platform on (RPM clocks etc)?
If it's the latter, the question is if we might end up fixing that some
day without further device tree changes. :')
Thanks,
Stephan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-15 10:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-13 10:25 [PATCH 0/7] Register MPM under CPU cluster power domain to manage RPM notification Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 1/7] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: mpm: Document power-domains property Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:36 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-13 11:26 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-13 15:11 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-07-15 6:38 ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-07-15 8:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 2/7] irqchip/irq-qcom-mpm: Register MPM under CPU cluster power domain Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:41 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 9:46 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-15 10:34 ` Stephan Gerhold
2026-07-15 10:45 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-15 10:49 ` Stephan Gerhold [this message]
2026-07-15 11:11 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 3/7] irqchip/irq-qcom-mpm: Prepare common access path for timer and pin regs Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:39 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 9:59 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 4/7] irqchip/irq-qcom-mpm: Program wakeup timer when CPU cluster goes to LPM Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:38 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-13 15:18 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 5/7] arm64: dts: qcom: sm6375: Make MPM device as part of CPU cluster domain Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:40 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 6/7] arm64: dts: qcom: agatti: Do not mark MPM as power domain Sneh Mankad
2026-07-13 10:39 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-15 10:01 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-13 10:25 ` [PATCH 7/7] arm64: dts: qcom: shikra: Add CPU idle states Sneh Mankad
2026-07-15 10:02 ` Konrad Dybcio
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