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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Kai Huang <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	 Sashiko Bot <sashiko-bot@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Add sanity check to detect stale page faults in "map private PFN"
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2026 06:43:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoMP-1OGrkhtliYz@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aoKv0vneW5hleZ9F@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com>

On Mon, Aug 17, 2026, Yan Zhao wrote:
> Sorry for the late reply!
> 
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 10:12:08AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2026, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2026 at 02:40:50PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > > > Harden the "map private PFN" flow against potentially-fatal bugs or future
> > > > KVM changes by checking for a stale "fault" prior to actually mapping the
> > > > PFN into the guest.  While it should be impossible for the "page fault" to
> > > > become stale, the sanity check is cheap, whereas a broken assumption would
> > > > have a high probability of leading to a guest-expoitable use-after-free.
> > > > 
> > > > Snapshot the invalidation sequence after acquiring mmu_lock to avoid false
> > > > positives, even though doing so completely voids anys and all protection
> > > > against unexpected invalidations.  Pretty much the entire point of
> > > > kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() is that it allows mapping a PFN that was
> > > > gifted by the caller, i.e. the caller would have to mess up its one and
> > > > only responsibility.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c | 10 ++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > > > index 379f570ef04f..76e3cd717324 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/mmu/mmu.c
> > > > @@ -5210,6 +5210,16 @@ int kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, gfn_t gfn, kvm_pfn_t pfn)
> > > >  		 */
> > > >  		WARN_ON_ONCE(kvm_test_request(KVM_REQ_MMU_FREE_OBSOLETE_ROOTS, vcpu));
> > > >  
> > > > +		/*
> > > > +		 * Snapshot the invalidation sequence counter after acquiring
> > > > +		 * mmu_lock, as guest_memfd guarantees the validity of the pfn,
> > > > +		 * i.e. any concurrent invalidations are guaranteed to be
> > > > +		 * irrelevant.
> > > > +		 */
> > > > +		fault.mmu_seq = vcpu->kvm->mmu_invalidate_seq;
> > > Could you explain more about the conditions under which a fault is stale while
> > > guest_memfd guarantees the validity of the pfn?
> > > 
> > > Given that kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() already asserts holding slots_lock and
> > > invalidate_lock, I can't think of one. 
> > 
> > A non-guest_memfd mmu_notifier invalidation bumps mmu_invalidate_seq.  And because
> > the range-based invalidation checks are deliberately coarse, in-flight invalidations
> > could also trigger a false positive if GFNs N and N+2 are being invalidate, while
> > kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() is trying to map N+1.
> Could updating fault.mmu_seq in each iteration cause a false negative?

Not really.  I mean, yes, technically it could, but I addressed this in changelog.

 : Snapshot the invalidation sequence after acquiring mmu_lock to avoid false
 : positives, even though doing so completely voids anys and all protection
 : against unexpected invalidations.  Pretty much the entire point of
 : kvm_tdp_mmu_map_private_pfn() is that it allows mapping a PFN that was
 : gifted by the caller, i.e. the caller would have to mess up its one and
 : only responsibility.

> I may be wrong, as I am unaware of the specific bugs or future changes you
> mentioned below in 'defense-in-depth against bugs and against future changes'.
> Could you elaborate a little more on those bugs or future changes?

There are non, AFAIK.  It's a statement saying "things may change at some point
in the future".

> > > If we add the sanity check because it's cheap, why don't we save
> > > fault.mmu_seq before getting the pfn to guard against stale pfn as well?
> > 
> > Because as the changelog says, the whole point of this API is to provide a stable
> > PFN.  I want to add an is_page_fault_stale() check as defense-in-depth against bugs,
> Ok. So adding is_page_fault_stale() is not intended to ensure that a private PFN
> is stable (i.e., not stale).
> Any background on why we cannot update the code when the bug/future changes
> actually arise? :)

Because finding bugs of this nature after they've been shipped to production isn't
very fun.

      reply	other threads:[~2026-08-17 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-06 21:40 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Fix pre-fault and map private loops Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 21:40 ` [PATCH 1/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Reload MMU on *every* page pre-fault attempt/iteration Sean Christopherson
2026-08-07  8:58   ` Huang, Kai
2026-08-07 19:04   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-07 19:11     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 21:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Harden "map private PFN" against unexpected root invalidation Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 22:14   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-06 22:21     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-07 20:26   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-07 22:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-10 20:01       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-11  7:01   ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-11 17:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-17  7:30       ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-17 13:37         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 21:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Top-up memory caches when retrying "map private PFN" Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 21:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-06 22:07     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-07 20:38   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-07 22:13     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-10 20:37       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-10 20:43         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 21:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: x86/mmu: Add sanity check to detect stale page faults in " Sean Christopherson
2026-08-06 21:54   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-06 22:12     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11  0:25   ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-11  6:40     ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-11 17:12     ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-17  6:53       ` Yan Zhao
2026-08-17 13:43         ` Sean Christopherson [this message]

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