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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2026 14:28:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arut8kWzqX5YW5wE@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42cfa3fb2246c66d69e45d7d9b8d6aaadc0da4c4@intel.com>

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On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 01:16:41PM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Sep 2026, Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Ouch. This immediately raises the "let's implement a parser in the
> > kernel" flag, or "let's create a new langage".
> 
> Fair.
> 
> > You'd still need a dedicated driver for your new blob parser, with far
> > fewer people who had had a look at it than BPF who has been working on
> > for several years.
> 
> Fair.

Also, it's kind of what we had with panel-mipi-dbi:
https://github.com/notro/panel-mipi-dbi/wiki

It didn't really take off.

> > The integration of BPF and the kernel is honestly transparent nowaday:
> > calling a struct_ops BPF function is just a function call away, and from
> > the bpf calling anything in the kernel is also just a call away.
> 
> I don't know if I'm just being overly conservative here, but it seems to
> me BPF provides too much flexibility for the use case. But maybe the
> point is completely moot, and you should just ignore me. ;)
> 
> > See Maxime's answers: yes, falling back to dedicated driver is still
> > encouraged.
> 
> [Moved the above to go with below.]
> 
> > Isn't that what Maxime wants to have? One driver for a plethora of DSI
> > panels, with the same ability the BIOS has to also do function calls to
> > set things up?
> 
> I suppose this is something that could use some clarification. Is the
> idea that most (simple) dedicated panel drivers eventually get converted
> to BPF?

I don't think most of the existing panels will be converted, if only
because it would require a different DT binding for most of them. We
should totally fix the "what happens the panel is supported by a driver
and the bpf driver" situation Rob (I think?) pointed out though, because
I do think some will be converted still.

> Or is the idea that BPF is easy for prototyping and development
> using stable kernels and short time to market, and most of them would
> eventually get converted to dedicated panel drivers?

Even though it does make prototyping easier, I totally expect this to be
a production-grade driver, just like any other panel driver.

> The story wrt display before userspace is up and running also needs
> clarification.

Yeah, I'll work on an in-kernel loader for v2.

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-29 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 16:22 [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:35   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 19:16   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 20:40   ` Rob Herring
2026-09-29  8:39     ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 22:28       ` Rob Herring
2026-09-30  8:04         ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-30 19:07           ` Rob Herring
2026-10-01  7:22             ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-01 16:03               ` Rob Herring
2026-09-30 13:32       ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  7:09         ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  7:28           ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 20:43   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-09-29 23:44   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-29 23:44     ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/panel: Add generic MIPI-DSI panel driver with BPF init sequences Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add BPF program build infrastructure and helper header Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-29 23:44   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-29 23:44     ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 7-inch panel BPF program Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 5-inch " Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH DO NOT MERGE 6/6] arm64: dts: broadcom: Add Raspberry Pi ILI9881C DSI panel overlays Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-28 17:31   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 18:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-29  6:54   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:39 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 17:24   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 19:20     ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 19:48       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 20:36         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  7:41           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:55             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-09-30 13:37               ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  6:50                 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  7:30                   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-02  7:37                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-10-02  7:53                       ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-02  9:04                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-09-30 13:36             ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-30 20:59               ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-10-01  6:38               ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-01 17:03               ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:27       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-30 13:49         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  7:01           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  7:39             ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  7:13   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:46     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-30 13:46     ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  6:48       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  8:11         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  9:03 ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29  9:32   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-29 10:16     ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29 12:28       ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2026-09-30 14:01   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-30 19:18     ` Jani Nikula
2026-10-01  7:05     ` Maxime Ripard

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