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From: Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
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	Benjamin Tissoires <bentiss@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2026 09:28:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ebe0714e-cb96-4091-a718-97dd9c081710@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ar4G864IgYTvfNNy@houat>

On 10/1/26 09:09, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 03:32:19PM +0200, Neil Armstrong wrote:
>> On 9/29/26 10:39, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>
>>> panel-mipi-dsi-spi is a generic panel that will load a firmware, and
>>> quite similar to this one. google,android-pipe and qcom,fastrpc don't
>>> attach to anything and will just open a tunnel to userspace, which is
>>> somewhat equivalent but more dramatic than what this driver is doing.
>>> simple-card or its variations will just instantiate a kernel driver from
>>> the DT and is used pretty much everywhere.
>>>
>>> I reused the binding from panel-mipi-dsi-spi for this. It was reviewed
>>> by rob, and acked by a panel maintainer, and 4 years ago, so we're way
>>> past the "oh but we didn't know what we were doing back then" argument.
>>>
>>> So, let's phrase this differently: what's different about the
>>> description than panel-mipi-dsi-spi, or any other binding already in
>>> tree?
>>
>> The panel-mipi-dsi-spi still describes a class of H/W control interface,
>> not a pure software driver implementation type.
>>
>> "panel-mipi-dsi-bpf" or "panel-mipi-dsi-rust" or "panel-mipi-dsi-cplusplus"
>> would be the same problem.
> 
> Rob explicitly said the bpf part wasn't the problem. Also, I don't care
> for the compatible itself, so what would be an acceptable compatible for
> you?
> 
>>> If it's the BPF part, BPF is not Linux-only, and there's hardware with
>>> direct BPF support these days, so it can be considered OS-agnostic and
>>> not an implementation detail.
>>
>> If somehow panels used a standardized MIPI firmware we could define this
>> in DT, but here we're basically inventing our own type of firmware from
>> thin air.
> 
> That's not what panel-mipi-dsi-spi is.

What you describe is how it's implemented in software

Neil

> 
> Maxime



  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-02  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 16:22 [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: display: Add panel-mipi-dsi-bpf generic panel binding Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:35   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 19:16   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 20:40   ` Rob Herring
2026-09-29  8:39     ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29 22:28       ` Rob Herring
2026-09-30  8:04         ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-30 19:07           ` Rob Herring
2026-10-01  7:22             ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-01 16:03               ` Rob Herring
2026-09-30 13:32       ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  7:09         ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  7:28           ` Neil Armstrong [this message]
2026-09-28 20:43   ` Rob Herring (Arm)
2026-09-29 23:44   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-29 23:44     ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/6] drm/panel: Add generic MIPI-DSI panel driver with BPF init sequences Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add BPF program build infrastructure and helper header Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-29 23:44   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-29 23:44     ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 7-inch panel BPF program Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:34   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] drm/panel: dsi-bpf: Add Raspberry Pi 5-inch " Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:22 ` [PATCH DO NOT MERGE 6/6] arm64: dts: broadcom: Add Raspberry Pi ILI9881C DSI panel overlays Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:31   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-28 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/6] drm/bridge: Add a BPF-based MIPI-DSI panel driver Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-28 17:31   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 18:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-09-29  6:54   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-28 16:39 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 17:24   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 19:20     ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-28 19:48       ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-28 20:36         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  7:41           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:55             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-09-30 13:37               ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  6:50                 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  7:30                   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-02  7:37                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-10-02  7:53                       ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-02  9:04                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2026-09-30 13:36             ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-30 20:59               ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-10-01  6:38               ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-01 17:03               ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:27       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-30 13:49         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  7:01           ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  7:39             ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  7:13   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-29  7:46     ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-30 13:46     ` Neil Armstrong
2026-10-01  6:48       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-10-02  8:11         ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-29  9:03 ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29  9:32   ` Benjamin Tissoires
2026-09-29 10:16     ` Jani Nikula
2026-09-29 12:28       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-30 14:01   ` Neil Armstrong
2026-09-30 19:18     ` Jani Nikula
2026-10-01  7:05     ` Maxime Ripard

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