Re: [PATCH] docs: remove Assisted-by references

["Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>]

On Sun, Oct 25, 2026 at 10:32:30PM +0100, Jori Koolstra wrote:
> There's a striking parallel with the mathematics community in this regard.
> They are dealing with a similar problem where the old way used to be you
> make a name for yourself by proving a hard theorem (Linux equivalent:
> you make a name for yourself with sweeping patchsets.) That does not
> really work as well anymore as a signal for competency (at least in maths):
>
> "Among the mathematicians I have spoken with, the prevailing sentiment
> is that this traditional mechanism of recognition has effectively collapsed
> in a matter of weeks. A strong mathematical result, by itself, can no
> longer be taken as convincing evidence of a student’s independent
> mathematical abilities."[1]

The kernel isn't quite there yet, I get to see a lot of low-effort AI
submissions and they are near-universally terrible, even if they fix a real
bug, for instance.

Personally, I question whether LLMs will ever get there. They really
struggle with good code, architecture, the longer-term picture, etc.

But predicting the future of LLMs is... unwise :)

> Would it be worthwhile to organize some sort of informal discussion on
> what such channels might be and how they can be organized in an
> LLM-resistant fashion? It would be interesting and useful to share and
> collect ideas on how the talent pipeline should take shape in the
> LLM-era, so that the community can ensure, also in the future, that
> talented and motivated people are continued to be brought in and not
> drowned out by slop or other unwanted hurdles, such as having access to
> very expensive tooling (a concern that I share with Laurent.)
>
> You and Ted have views on this; Shuah runs the kernel mentorship program;
> and I know Greg also helps people get exposed to the kernel through
> various means. Then there's GSoC and Outreachy, etc.
>
> I guess a lot of these people will be at LSFMMBPF?

I'm always more than happy to discuss things! And in-person beats on-list
every time :)

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Cheers, Lorenzo