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From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>
To: Julian Braha <julianbraha@gmail.com>
Cc: "Clark Williams" <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nsc@kernel.org>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"John Ogness" <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	"Derek Barbosa" <debarbos@redhat.com>,
	"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@amutable.com>,
	"Daan De Meyer" <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com>,
	"Luca Boccassi" <luca.boccassi@gmail.com>,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 01/10] kconfig-checker: Add schema for rule files
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 13:40:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avG_IXPcRY7njMgP@lx-t490> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0ffecfe-8c4f-457e-ae8d-32a9601e69e5@gmail.com>

Hi Julian,

Thanks for all the feedback!

On Sun, 08 Nov 2026, Julian Braha wrote:
>
> On 11/6/26 09:19, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> >
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/tools/kconfig-checker/schema.yml
...
> > +
> > +        #
> > +        # Expected value for the matching kernel configuration option.
> > +        #
> > +        # Values:
> > +        #
> > +        #   y        option is expected to be enabled (built-in or module).
>
> Kconfig's tristates use 3-state logic. It seems like you're
> approximating 'm' as 'y'?
>

You're correct.

'y' is deceiving, even with the comment beside it saying that it implies
either a built-in or a module.

I guess it would be better to have the expected values like:

   expected:
      type: string
      enum: [enabled, disabled, allowed]

As a bonus, 'enabled' and 'disabled' rhymes well with 'allowed'.

So the policies can be:

  - name: CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
    expected: enabled
    ...

  - name: CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL
    expected: disabled
    ...

  - name: CONFIG_DEBUG_FS
    expected: allowed
    ...

I think that's much cleaner.

> These are meaningfully different values :/

I wrote some policies beside the PREEMPT_RT one, and the main requirement
was always that a certain kernel feature is either enabled or disabled.

In the future, I can add;

    expected:
      type: string
      enum: [enabled, disabled, allowed, builtin-only, module]

But so far, there was no need for that.

> > +        #   n        option is expected to be disabled or unset.
> > +        #   allowed  option is permitted and must not be reported as a violation.
> > +        #            This is used to exempt a specific symbol from a broader
> > +        #            `name_pattern` rule  with `expected: n`.
> > +        #
> > +        expected:
> > +          type: string
> > +          enum: [y, n, allowed]
>
> What if a user wants to specify that the value can be 'n' or 'y', but
> not 'm'?

Is this a real-world use case?

I did not encounter a need for making the expected values that complex
before.

Thanks!

--
Ahmed S. Darwish
Linutronix GmbH

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-09 12:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-06  9:19 [PATCH v1 00/10] tools: Introduce a kernel configuration checker Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] kconfig-checker: Add schema for rule files Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59   ` Julian Braha
2026-11-09 12:40     ` Ahmed S. Darwish [this message]
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] kconfig-checker: Introduce PREEMPT_RT configuration rules Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 18:09     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] kconfig-checker: Add the configuration checker code Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 19:29     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59   ` Julian Braha
2026-11-09 13:00     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 22:56       ` Julian Braha
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] kconfig: Introduce checkconfig target Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 20:07     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 15:53       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59   ` Julian Braha
2026-11-09  0:39     ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-09 13:18       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-11  6:38         ` Nicolas Schier
2026-11-12 11:32           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] Documentation: Describe kconfig-checker usage and design Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] kconfig-checker: Split schema to support component reuse Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 18:22     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] kconfig-checker: Introduce overlays schema Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 16:47     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] kconfig-checker: Add support for rule overlays Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] Documentation: Describe kconfig-checker overlays Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 16:50     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] kconfig: Introduce OVERLAY= for make checkconfig Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-11  6:38   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-11-12 11:45     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 21:31       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] tools: Introduce a kernel configuration checker Julian Braha
2026-11-09  0:37   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-09 16:15     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-09 16:52       ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-09 17:04         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-09 15:49   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-10 18:18     ` Julian Braha
2026-11-10 20:33       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-11  6:38 ` Nicolas Schier
2026-11-12 12:36   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 17:50     ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-12 19:14       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 21:44         ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-12 23:14     ` Julian Braha

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