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From: "Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwi@linutronix.de>
To: Julian Braha <julianbraha@gmail.com>
Cc: "Clark Williams" <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nsc@kernel.org>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"John Ogness" <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	"Derek Barbosa" <debarbos@redhat.com>,
	"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@amutable.com>,
	"Daan De Meyer" <daan.j.demeyer@gmail.com>,
	"Luca Boccassi" <luca.boccassi@gmail.com>,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, debian-kernel@lists.debian.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arighi@nvidia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/10] tools: Introduce a kernel configuration checker
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2026 16:49:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avHroNa1vcxmCIOs@lx-t490> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a20153cd-d148-4618-8089-ad81cb16fe23@gmail.com>

Hi Julian,

On Sun, 08 Nov 2026, Julian Braha wrote:
>
> Cool tool :)
>

Thanks!

> >
> > If no ruleset is specified, the target prints the available rulesets:
> >
> >     $ make checkconfig
> >       Usage: make RULES=<profile> [OVERLAY=<overlay>] checkconfig
> >       Available RULES: preempt_rt
> >
> > The overlay mechanism allows distributions, CI systems, and Board Support
>
> On the topic of distributions, this seems *a lot* like Canonical's
> Annotations [1], albeit yours uses YAML and supports matching option
> names with regex.

The difference is not only in the implementation details. Please see below.

> As you say about PREEMPT_RT configuration not being
> "one-size-fits-all", similarly there are 100+ Ubuntu kernels that need
> to adhere to a configuration "policy".
>
> So this seems to be a real problem that others are having.
>

Kernel configuration is definitely getting trickier.  That's why I've
contributed the PREEMPT_RT kernel configuration guide earlier:

   https://docs.kernel.org/core-api/real-time/kernel-configuration.html

Regarding the Canonical tool, it's the first time I see it.  From that
announce e-mail, it seems that they're using it for generating a .config:

   Starting with 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish), Ubuntu kernels are now using
   only annotations to /generate/ their corresponding .config.

   ...

   $ ./debian/scripts/misc/annotations --arch amd64 --flavour generic > .config

Yocto also provides a very light concept of .config generation:

   https://docs.yoctoproject.org/kernel-dev/common.html#creating-configuration-fragments

But this tool does not conern itself with generation.  That is, Canonical
can use this tool to validate that they've generated the right thing! ;-)

> > For example:
> >
> >     $ ./tools/kconfig-checker/check.py check	\
> >           -c path/to/.config			\
> >           -r preempt_rt				\
> >           -o path/to/overlay.yml
> >
> > or:
> >
> >     $ make RULES=preempt_rt OVERLAY=path/to/overlay.yml checkconfig
> >
>
> I think the name will cause confusion.
>
> We already have some "kconfig checkers" in-tree, like
> scripts/kconfig-sym-check.pl
>
> But actually, your tool is quite unrelated, because that one checks
> 'Kconfig' source files, while yours checks the user's '.config' file.
>
> This has already caused some confusion in the past, for example in this
> thread [2], someone misunderstood which one 'kconfig-sym-check'
> actually checks.
>

Haha, good point :)

> In addition to .config vs Kconfig, the name is similar to
> 'kconfig-sym-check', but is not as descriptive about *what kind* of
> checks it performs.

Maybe "kconfig-audit" would be a good name?

It makes it clear that it "audits" a .config against a certain policy.

Thanks!

--
Ahmed S. Darwish
Linutronix GmbH

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-09 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-06  9:19 [PATCH v1 00/10] tools: Introduce a kernel configuration checker Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] kconfig-checker: Add schema for rule files Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59   ` Julian Braha
2026-11-09 12:40     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] kconfig-checker: Introduce PREEMPT_RT configuration rules Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 18:09     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] kconfig-checker: Add the configuration checker code Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 19:29     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59   ` Julian Braha
2026-11-09 13:00     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 22:56       ` Julian Braha
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] kconfig: Introduce checkconfig target Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 20:07     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 15:53       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59   ` Julian Braha
2026-11-09  0:39     ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-09 13:18       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-11  6:38         ` Nicolas Schier
2026-11-12 11:32           ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] Documentation: Describe kconfig-checker usage and design Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] kconfig-checker: Split schema to support component reuse Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 18:22     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] kconfig-checker: Introduce overlays schema Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 16:47     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] kconfig-checker: Add support for rule overlays Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] Documentation: Describe kconfig-checker overlays Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-07  9:20   ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-09 16:50     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-06  9:19 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] kconfig: Introduce OVERLAY= for make checkconfig Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-11  6:38   ` Nicolas Schier
2026-11-12 11:45     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 21:31       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-08 18:59 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] tools: Introduce a kernel configuration checker Julian Braha
2026-11-09  0:37   ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-09 16:15     ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-09 16:52       ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-09 17:04         ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-09 15:49   ` Ahmed S. Darwish [this message]
2026-11-10 18:18     ` Julian Braha
2026-11-10 20:33       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-11  6:38 ` Nicolas Schier
2026-11-12 12:36   ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 17:50     ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-12 19:14       ` Ahmed S. Darwish
2026-11-12 21:44         ` Nathan Chancellor
2026-11-12 23:14     ` Julian Braha

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