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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	Oded Gabbay <ogabbay@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 14:58:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d12fdf94-fbef-b981-2eff-660470ceca22@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yv4qlOp9n78B8TFb@nvidia.com>



Am 18.08.22 um 14:03 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 01:07:16PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 17.08.22 um 18:11 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
>>> dma-buf has become a way to safely acquire a handle to non-struct page
>>> memory that can still have lifetime controlled by the exporter. Notably
>>> RDMA can now import dma-buf FDs and build them into MRs which allows for
>>> PCI P2P operations. Extend this to allow vfio-pci to export MMIO memory
>>> from PCI device BARs.
>>>
>>> This series supports a use case for SPDK where a NVMe device will be owned
>>> by SPDK through VFIO but interacting with a RDMA device. The RDMA device
>>> may directly access the NVMe CMB or directly manipulate the NVMe device's
>>> doorbell using PCI P2P.
>>>
>>> However, as a general mechanism, it can support many other scenarios with
>>> VFIO. I imagine this dmabuf approach to be usable by iommufd as well for
>>> generic and safe P2P mappings.
>> In general looks good to me, but we really need to get away from using
>> sg_tables for this here.
>>
>> The only thing I'm not 100% convinced of is dma_buf_try_get(), I've seen
>> this incorrectly used so many times that I can't count them any more.
>>
>> Would that be somehow avoidable? Or could you at least explain the use case
>> a bit better.
> I didn't see a way, maybe you know of one

For GEM objects we usually don't use the reference count of the DMA-buf, 
but rather that of the GEM object for this. But that's not an ideal 
solution either.

>
> VFIO needs to maintain a list of dmabuf FDs that have been created by
> the user attached to each vfio_device:
>
> int vfio_pci_core_feature_dma_buf(struct vfio_pci_core_device *vdev, u32 flags,
> 				  struct vfio_device_feature_dma_buf __user *arg,
> 				  size_t argsz)
> {
> 	down_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
> 	list_add_tail(&priv->dmabufs_elm, &vdev->dmabufs);
> 	up_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
>
> And dmabuf FD's are removed from the list when the user closes the FD:
>
> static void vfio_pci_dma_buf_release(struct dma_buf *dmabuf)
> {
> 		down_write(&priv->vdev->memory_lock);
> 		list_del_init(&priv->dmabufs_elm);
> 		up_write(&priv->vdev->memory_lock);
>
> Which then poses the problem: How do you iterate over only dma_buf's
> that are still alive to execute move?
>
> This seems necessary as parts of the dma_buf have already been
> destroyed by the time the user's release function is called.
>
> Which I solved like this:
>
> 	down_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
> 	list_for_each_entry_safe(priv, tmp, &vdev->dmabufs, dmabufs_elm) {
> 		if (!dma_buf_try_get(priv->dmabuf))
> 			continue;

What would happen if you don't skip destroyed dma-bufs here? In other 
words why do you maintain that list in the first place?

Regards,
Christian.

>
> So the scenarios resolve as:
>   - Concurrent release is not in progress: dma_buf_try_get() succeeds
>     and prevents concurrent release from starting
>   - Release has started but not reached its memory_lock:
>     dma_buf_try_get() fails
>   - Release has started but passed its memory_lock: dmabuf is not on
>     the list so dma_buf_try_get() is not called.
>
> Jason


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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Oded Gabbay <ogabbay@kernel.org>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Maor Gottlieb <maorg@nvidia.com>,
	Sumit Semwal <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2022 14:58:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d12fdf94-fbef-b981-2eff-660470ceca22@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yv4qlOp9n78B8TFb@nvidia.com>



Am 18.08.22 um 14:03 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 01:07:16PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 17.08.22 um 18:11 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
>>> dma-buf has become a way to safely acquire a handle to non-struct page
>>> memory that can still have lifetime controlled by the exporter. Notably
>>> RDMA can now import dma-buf FDs and build them into MRs which allows for
>>> PCI P2P operations. Extend this to allow vfio-pci to export MMIO memory
>>> from PCI device BARs.
>>>
>>> This series supports a use case for SPDK where a NVMe device will be owned
>>> by SPDK through VFIO but interacting with a RDMA device. The RDMA device
>>> may directly access the NVMe CMB or directly manipulate the NVMe device's
>>> doorbell using PCI P2P.
>>>
>>> However, as a general mechanism, it can support many other scenarios with
>>> VFIO. I imagine this dmabuf approach to be usable by iommufd as well for
>>> generic and safe P2P mappings.
>> In general looks good to me, but we really need to get away from using
>> sg_tables for this here.
>>
>> The only thing I'm not 100% convinced of is dma_buf_try_get(), I've seen
>> this incorrectly used so many times that I can't count them any more.
>>
>> Would that be somehow avoidable? Or could you at least explain the use case
>> a bit better.
> I didn't see a way, maybe you know of one

For GEM objects we usually don't use the reference count of the DMA-buf, 
but rather that of the GEM object for this. But that's not an ideal 
solution either.

>
> VFIO needs to maintain a list of dmabuf FDs that have been created by
> the user attached to each vfio_device:
>
> int vfio_pci_core_feature_dma_buf(struct vfio_pci_core_device *vdev, u32 flags,
> 				  struct vfio_device_feature_dma_buf __user *arg,
> 				  size_t argsz)
> {
> 	down_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
> 	list_add_tail(&priv->dmabufs_elm, &vdev->dmabufs);
> 	up_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
>
> And dmabuf FD's are removed from the list when the user closes the FD:
>
> static void vfio_pci_dma_buf_release(struct dma_buf *dmabuf)
> {
> 		down_write(&priv->vdev->memory_lock);
> 		list_del_init(&priv->dmabufs_elm);
> 		up_write(&priv->vdev->memory_lock);
>
> Which then poses the problem: How do you iterate over only dma_buf's
> that are still alive to execute move?
>
> This seems necessary as parts of the dma_buf have already been
> destroyed by the time the user's release function is called.
>
> Which I solved like this:
>
> 	down_write(&vdev->memory_lock);
> 	list_for_each_entry_safe(priv, tmp, &vdev->dmabufs, dmabufs_elm) {
> 		if (!dma_buf_try_get(priv->dmabuf))
> 			continue;

What would happen if you don't skip destroyed dma-bufs here? In other 
words why do you maintain that list in the first place?

Regards,
Christian.

>
> So the scenarios resolve as:
>   - Concurrent release is not in progress: dma_buf_try_get() succeeds
>     and prevents concurrent release from starting
>   - Release has started but not reached its memory_lock:
>     dma_buf_try_get() fails
>   - Release has started but passed its memory_lock: dmabuf is not on
>     the list so dma_buf_try_get() is not called.
>
> Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-18 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17 16:11 [PATCH 0/4] Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] dma-buf: Add dma_buf_try_get() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11 ` [PATCH 2/4] vfio: Add vfio_device_get() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11 ` [PATCH 3/4] vfio_pci: Do not open code pci_try_reset_function() Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] vfio/pci: Allow MMIO regions to be exported through dma-buf Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-17 16:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-21 13:51   ` Fwd: " Oded Gabbay
2022-08-21 13:51     ` Oded Gabbay
2022-08-26 18:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-26 18:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-29  5:04   ` Yan Zhao
2022-08-29  5:04     ` Yan Zhao
2022-08-29 12:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-29 12:26       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-18 11:07 ` [PATCH 0/4] " Christian König
2022-08-18 11:07   ` Christian König
2022-08-18 12:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-18 12:03     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-18 12:58     ` Christian König [this message]
2022-08-18 12:58       ` Christian König
2022-08-18 13:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-18 13:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-18 13:37         ` Christian König
2022-08-18 13:37           ` Christian König
2022-08-19 13:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-19 13:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-19 13:33             ` Christian König
2022-08-19 13:33               ` Christian König
2022-08-19 13:39               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-19 13:39                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-19 13:47                 ` Christian König
2022-08-19 13:47                   ` Christian König
2022-08-18 12:05 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-18 12:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-08-22 21:58   ` Alex Williamson
2022-08-22 21:58     ` Alex Williamson

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