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From: Oleksii Kurochko <oleksii.kurochko@gmail.com>
To: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
Cc: "Romain Caritey" <Romain.Caritey@microchip.com>,
	"Baptiste Le Duc" <baptiste.le-duc@vates.tech>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair.francis@wdc.com>,
	"Connor Davis" <connojdavis@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@vates.tech>,
	"Michal Orzel" <michal.orzel@amd.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger@xenproject.org>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 14/17] xen/riscv: add guest page fault handling stub
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 11:58:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e800e7f3-bd42-4e79-9d5f-9f46f3a2437b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0d0d45b2-8682-4ae3-9f64-bdcb4add09b1@suse.com>



On 8/19/26 11:52 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
> On 19.08.2026 10:59, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>> On 8/18/26 6:04 PM, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>> On 8/18/26 10:29 AM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 17.08.2026 18:10, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>>> On 8/12/26 5:48 PM, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 20.07.2026 18:02, Oleksii Kurochko wrote:
>>>>>>> +{
>>>>>>> +    /*
>>>>>>> +     * According to RISC-V spec:
>>>>>>> +     *  18.2.8. Hypervisor Trap Value Register (htval)
>>>>>>> +     *   ...
>>>>>>> +     *   A guest physical address written to htval is shifted
>>>>>>> right by 2 bits
>>>>>>> +     *   to accommodate addresses wider than the current XLEN.
>>>>>>> +     *   ...
>>>>>>> +     *   If the least-significant two bits of a faulting guest
>>>>>>> physical address
>>>>>>> +     *   are needed, these bits are ordinarily the same as the
>>>>>>> +     *   least-significant two bits of the faulting virtual
>>>>>>> address in stval.
>>>>>>> +     *   For faults due to implicit memory accesses for VS-stage
>>>>>>> address
>>>>>>> +     *   translation, the least-significant two bits are instead
>>>>>>> zeros. These
>>>>>>> +     *   cases can be distinguished using the value provided in
>>>>>>> register htinst.
>>>>>>> +     */
>>>>>>> +    return (csr_read(CSR_HTVAL) << 2) | (csr_read(CSR_STVAL) & 0x3);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, okay, but instead of not losing the bottom two bits you're now
>>>>>> losing
>>>>>> the top two ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, right, I will add a cast ((uint64_t)csr_read(CSR_HTVAL) << 2) | ...
>>>>>
>>>>> It will cover all the cases RV32 which has 34-bit guest address and it
>>>>> will be enough for RV64 where GPA is 59bit (the highest possible for
>>>>> Sv59).
>>>>
>>>> Only if the function return type then also changes.
>>>>
>>>>>> Also the spec reads as if htval only _may_ hold the original address
>>>>>> of the
>>>>>> faulting access. What if htval ends up 0?
>>>>>
>>>>> good point. then we have to emulate fault instruction and get an address
>>>>> from an instruction. I think that for now it will be enough just to
>>>>> support platforms which always write GPA to HTVAL.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I understand correctly if htval is supported by platform then htval
>>>>> will be always filled for guest page fault. To verify if HTVAL is
>>>>> supported we could do:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Unless it has reason to assume otherwise (such as a platform standard),
>>>>> software that writes a value to htval should read back from htval to
>>>>> confirm the stored value.'
>>>>
>>>> How does this matter here? It's one thing for htval to be capable of
>>>> holding (all?) non-zero values, and another that it would always be
>>>> written. If the platform doesn't indicate the behavior, I fear you have
>>>> to assume that you may (perhaps even randomly) observe 0.
>>>
>>> So to be very sure we could check for two extensions: Sstval and Shtval.
>>> They will guarantee that under any circumstances it will be filled.
>>>
>>> Also, as an option we could check that htinst value isn't zero as
>>> according to the spec:
>>>
>>> For guest-page faults, the trap instruction register is written with a
>>> special pseudoinstruction value if:
>>> (a) the fault is caused by an implicit memory access for VS-stage
>>> address translation, and (b) a nonzero
>>> value (the faulting guest physical address) is written to mtval2 or htval.
>>>
>>> So if htinst != 0 then htval is filled with GPA and a nonzero guest
>>> physical address written to mtval2/htval shall correspond to the exact
>>> virtual address written to mtval/stval.
>>
>> I've re-read SPEC again and it looks like htinst != 0 doesn't guarantee
>> that htval and stval will contain necessary for me here faulty
>> instruction. What I wrote above guarantee that if a fault during
>> VS-stage translation failed then it htval will contatain GPA of PTE with
>> which was an issue.
>>
>> So I have to blindly believe that HTVAL and STVAL will always contain
>> necessary for me data as KVM and other hypervisor does or introduce here
>> software guest page table walker if Sstvala and Shtvala aren't provided
>> by platform.
> 
> Why "blindly believe"? Checking for the necessary extension(s) should be
> an option. Adding fallback code for when an extension isn't available can
> come later, can't it?

It can be an option. It is what I planned to do.

~ Oleksii


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-19  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-20 16:01 [PATCH v1 00/17] [RISC-V] virtual interrupt controller (vAPLIC/vIMSIC) support Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-20 16:01 ` [PATCH v1 01/17] xen/riscv: manage IRQ_DISABLED flag in APLIC irq enable/disable callbacks Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-27 15:19   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-10 13:32   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 02/17] xen/riscv: add basic VGEIN management for AIA guests Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-27 15:41   ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-29 14:55     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-30  7:42       ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-30 15:46         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-30 16:03           ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-31 14:59             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-03 10:37               ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-10 13:32   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-10 15:04     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-11  8:13       ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 03/17] xen/riscv: add missing APLIC register offsets, masks to asm/aplic.h Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-28 12:02   ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-29 15:26     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-30  7:53       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-10 13:45   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-10 14:45     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-10 14:51       ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 04/17] xen/riscv: introduce device-agnostic MMIO emulation dispatch Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-28 12:23   ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-30 16:03     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-30 16:09       ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-31 15:24         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-03 10:41           ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-04 10:26             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-10 14:49   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-10 15:36     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-11  8:17       ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-11 11:49         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12  7:21           ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-12  7:47             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 05/17] xen/riscv: implement virtual APLIC MMIO emulation Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-06 14:28   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-07 16:08     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-11  9:21       ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-11 14:36         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-11 15:29           ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-11 16:24             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12  9:47               ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-12 10:05                 ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12  9:10       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-12 11:51         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 11:56           ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-12 14:03   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-12 15:59     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 06/17] xen/riscv: map IMSIC interrupt file for vCPUs Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-06 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-10  8:50     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12  9:16       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13  9:06   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-13  9:42     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13  9:49       ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-13  9:56         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 07/17] xen/riscv: introduce vCPU AIA initialization Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-06 14:56   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-10 10:01     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13  9:24   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-13  9:31     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13  9:47     ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13 11:35       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 08/17] xen/riscv: add IMSIC state save/restore Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 13:57   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-17  9:23     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13  9:30   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-13  9:34     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13  9:51       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13 10:22         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13 10:44           ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13 10:56             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13 11:04               ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 09/17] xen/riscv: add helper to check APLIC MSI mode Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 14:08   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13  9:34   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 10/17] xen/riscv: introduce vintc_state_{save,restore}() Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 14:13   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13  9:42   ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-17  8:31     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  8:28       ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-08-18  8:31         ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18  8:40           ` Baptiste Le Duc
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 11/17] xen/riscv: add vAPLIC state save/restore hooks Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 14:19   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-17  8:43     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 12/17] xen/riscv: extend exception tables with type and data fields Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 14:37   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-17 11:33     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-17 11:39       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  7:58         ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18  8:17           ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  7:56       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18  9:14         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  9:26           ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18  9:40             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18 10:30               ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 13/17] xen/riscv: add unprivileged guest memory read helper Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 15:30   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-17 15:36     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  8:17       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18 10:27         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18 10:43           ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18 13:38             ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18 14:16               ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 14/17] xen/riscv: add guest page fault handling stub Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 15:48   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-17 16:10     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  8:29       ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18 16:04         ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-19  8:59           ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-19  9:52             ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-19  9:58               ` Oleksii Kurochko [this message]
2026-07-20 16:02 ` [PATCH v1 15/17] xen/riscv: implement trap redirection to a guest Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-12 16:03   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-18  7:47     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-18  8:35       ` Jan Beulich
2026-07-27 15:21 ` [PATCH v1 00/17] [RISC-V] virtual interrupt controller (vAPLIC/vIMSIC) support Jan Beulich
2026-07-29 13:41   ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-29 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 16/17] xen/riscv: add guest load emulation for trapped MMIO accesses Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-13  7:15   ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-13  7:28     ` Jan Beulich
2026-08-19 11:00       ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-08-19 16:06     ` Oleksii Kurochko
2026-07-29 13:40 ` [PATCH v1 17/17] xen/riscv: add guest store " Oleksii Kurochko

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