From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger.pro@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-arm] [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 15:59:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee204f5f-600f-2425-a1ff-0418b4611e96@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-hobu_=VKhYQ+UZ1WX_JFfwCarkPKQhiBtXc3fre57rg@mail.gmail.com>
On 05/24/18 15:07, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 24 May 2018 at 13:59, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 05/24/18 11:11, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> Won't it also break a guest which is just Linux loaded not via
>>> firmware which is an aarch32 kernel without LPAE support?
>>
>> Does such a thing exist? (I honestly have no clue.)
>
> Yes, it does; LPAE isn't a mandatory kernel config option.
> This is why we have the machine 'highmem' option, so that
> we can run on those kernels by not putting anything above
> the 4G boundary. Looking back at the history on that, we
> opted at the time for "default to highmem on, and if you're
> running an non-lpae kernel you need to turn it off manually".
Ah, OK, I didn't know that.
> So we can handle those kernels by just not putting ECAM
> above 4G if highmem is false.
The problem is we can have a combination of 32-bit UEFI firmware (which
certainly lacks LPAE) and a 32-bit kernel which supports LPAE.
Previously, you wouldn't specify highmem=off, and things would just work
-- the firmware would simply ignore the >=4GB MMIO aperture, and use the
32-bit MMIO aperture only (and use the sole 32-bit ECAM). The kernel
could then use both low and high MMIO apertures, however (I gather?).
The difference with "high ECAM" is that it is *moved* (not *added*), so
the 32-bit firmware is left with nothing for config space access. For
booting the same combination as above, you are suddenly forced to add
highmem=off, just to keep the ECAM low -- and that, while it keeps the
firmware happy, prevents the LPAE-capable kernel from using the high
MMIO aperture.
So I think "highmem_ecam" should be computed like this:
highmem_ecam = highmem_ecam_machtype_default &&
highmem &&
(!firmware_loaded || aarch64);
Thanks,
Laszlo
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From: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Auger Eric <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger.pro@gmail.com>,
QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>, Wei Huang <wei@redhat.com>,
Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 15:59:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee204f5f-600f-2425-a1ff-0418b4611e96@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-hobu_=VKhYQ+UZ1WX_JFfwCarkPKQhiBtXc3fre57rg@mail.gmail.com>
On 05/24/18 15:07, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 24 May 2018 at 13:59, Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 05/24/18 11:11, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> Won't it also break a guest which is just Linux loaded not via
>>> firmware which is an aarch32 kernel without LPAE support?
>>
>> Does such a thing exist? (I honestly have no clue.)
>
> Yes, it does; LPAE isn't a mandatory kernel config option.
> This is why we have the machine 'highmem' option, so that
> we can run on those kernels by not putting anything above
> the 4G boundary. Looking back at the history on that, we
> opted at the time for "default to highmem on, and if you're
> running an non-lpae kernel you need to turn it off manually".
Ah, OK, I didn't know that.
> So we can handle those kernels by just not putting ECAM
> above 4G if highmem is false.
The problem is we can have a combination of 32-bit UEFI firmware (which
certainly lacks LPAE) and a 32-bit kernel which supports LPAE.
Previously, you wouldn't specify highmem=off, and things would just work
-- the firmware would simply ignore the >=4GB MMIO aperture, and use the
32-bit MMIO aperture only (and use the sole 32-bit ECAM). The kernel
could then use both low and high MMIO apertures, however (I gather?).
The difference with "high ECAM" is that it is *moved* (not *added*), so
the 32-bit firmware is left with nothing for config space access. For
booting the same combination as above, you are suddenly forced to add
highmem=off, just to keep the ECAM low -- and that, while it keeps the
firmware happy, prevents the LPAE-capable kernel from using the high
MMIO aperture.
So I think "highmem_ecam" should be computed like this:
highmem_ecam = highmem_ecam_machtype_default &&
highmem &&
(!firmware_loaded || aarch64);
Thanks,
Laszlo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-24 13:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-23 16:03 [Qemu-arm] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 1/2] hw/arm/virt: Add a new 256MB ECAM region Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 2/2] hw/arm/virt: Add virt-3.0 machine type Eric Auger
2018-05-23 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Auger
2018-05-23 17:45 ` [Qemu-arm] [RFC 0/2] ARM virt: Support up to 256 PCIe buses Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-23 17:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-23 20:40 ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2018-05-23 20:40 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-23 20:52 ` [Qemu-arm] " Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-23 20:52 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-23 20:55 ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2018-05-23 20:55 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-24 9:11 ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-05-24 9:11 ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-24 12:59 ` [Qemu-arm] " Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 12:59 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 13:07 ` [Qemu-arm] " Peter Maydell
2018-05-24 13:07 ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-24 13:10 ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2018-05-24 13:10 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-24 13:59 ` Laszlo Ersek [this message]
2018-05-24 13:59 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 14:09 ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2018-05-24 14:09 ` Auger Eric
2018-05-24 16:58 ` [Qemu-arm] " Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 16:58 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 14:14 ` [Qemu-arm] " Ard Biesheuvel
2018-05-24 14:14 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-05-24 17:20 ` [Qemu-arm] " Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 17:20 ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-05-24 19:26 ` [Qemu-arm] " Auger Eric
2018-05-24 19:26 ` Auger Eric
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